DBSTalk.com First Look: HR23-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Nov 2, 2008.

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  1. Nov 4, 2008 #181 of 489

    keenan Godfather

    Feb 8, 2005
    Not to go further off topic, but that was my point, many of the PBS stations are/have been ready, it's not a case of PBS, at least local PBS, not agreeing to carriage as Doug indicated, unless he's speaking specifically about a national feed which wasn't qualified in his post.
  2. Nov 4, 2008 #182 of 489

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

    Sep 28, 2006
    The fact is, WE here on DBSTalk do not know the reason for the delay. Your local may have offered when there was no space to be carried, and now that there is, there are probably contractual provisions in PBS agreements that specify things like signal quality and delivery to the Directv end, and perhaps even things like a planned rollout of PBS stations to a number of markets at once, none of which your local has control over.

    In short, it's easy for us to second-guess but without access to the actual agreements and technical data, it's just guessing and complaining.
  3. Nov 4, 2008 #183 of 489

    RobertSeattle Legend

    Aug 27, 2006
    What speed are the the various DirecTV DVR Ethernet jacks - 100Mbs or 1Gig?
  4. Nov 4, 2008 #184 of 489
    Michael D'Angelo

    Michael D'Angelo Lifetime Achiever

    Oct 20, 2006
    All of them are 10/100.
  5. Nov 4, 2008 #185 of 489

    keenan Godfather

    Feb 8, 2005
    Agreed, but for the record, my information comes from the managing director of KQED, it has been offered, but declined("not at this time") with no explanation.
  6. Nov 4, 2008 #186 of 489

    Steve615 Hall Of Fame

    Feb 5, 2006
    Middle TN area
    As usual,another great first look.
    :goodjob: to a job well done by all involved. :)
  7. Nov 4, 2008 #187 of 489

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006

    Now thats funny... I'd say Directv is constantly imporving their software, at a much faster rate than Tivo is... considering Tivo still hasn't gotten their software on all the cable boxes, yet Direct has added all kinds of features, and most of them are very responsive, including mine, and are reliable... The reality is that the hardware and software are being developed with each other in mind, but are not restraining each other either....
  8. Nov 4, 2008 #188 of 489

    rst1121 Cool Member

    Nov 3, 2008

    Just joined the forum. I was told by a good source who works at DirecTV that these are already on sale.

    Has anyone seen this unit in the stores?

  9. Nov 4, 2008 #189 of 489

    Draconis New Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Las Vegas, NV
    :welcome_s to DBSTalk, and no, I have not seen these in the stores at this time.
  10. Nov 4, 2008 #190 of 489

    rst1121 Cool Member

    Nov 3, 2008
    Thanks for the reply and the welcome Draconis. I spoke to my source and I was told DirecTV doesn't guarantee models when your order from them.
  11. Nov 4, 2008 #191 of 489

    Draconis New Member

    Mar 16, 2007
    Las Vegas, NV
    The only way you can guarantee a specific model is if you purchase it retail. I checked with Best Buy online, did not see the HR23-700. I also checked with SolidSignal.com, same story.
  12. Nov 4, 2008 #192 of 489
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    I have not seen any, but this information would not surprise me.
  13. Nov 4, 2008 #193 of 489

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Do you mean 79 is MPEG2? ;)
  14. Nov 4, 2008 #194 of 489

    redfiver DBSTalk Club Member

    Nov 18, 2006
    Is any First Look going to be more objective in the future instead of a gush piece over how great DirecTV is doing?

    If the purpose of the first look is not to objectively review the device, but a vehicle to thank DirecTV for the CE program, fine. But, if it's meant to be a review of the actual unit, I'd like to see a more balanced presentation.

    Some other information I'd like to know about in future reviews:
    What kind of 500GB HD is in the unit?
    what temperature does the unit actually run at?
    Does it run hotter in a closed environment?
    What is the dB level of the unit while operating?
  15. Nov 4, 2008 #195 of 489

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

    Sep 28, 2006
    I can't speak to all your questions for this one (though I have been part of the Field Trials for the HR21-700, AM21 and R22-200) . . . but as noted above, First Looks are NOT "reviews." They are overviews. There is a clear and obvious difference.

    That said, model of hard drive is irrelevant, since the manufacturers are obviously free to source equivalent parts during the duration of a production run. Temps are going to vary based on any number of conditions, just like any other electrical device. Ambient temperature and airflow are two factors that will always affect internal temps of an operating computer-like device.

    As for sound of this unit, I don't know what people are used to, but none of my five DVRs is audible in a normal room environment unless I move my head with a foot or so of the box in an otherwise-quiet room. I would be surprised if this one was any different. :confused:
  16. Nov 4, 2008 #196 of 489

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Corrected, thanks. Got to get my fingers to listen to my head when I type. ;)
  17. Nov 4, 2008 #197 of 489

    TheMoose Icon

    Jan 20, 2006

    A first look is just that, a first look, not a detailed engineering analysis.

    I don't know what hard drive is in the unit.
    I can tell you mine runs consistently about 8 degrees cooler than my HR20-100.
    Any piece of electronics will run hotter in a closed environment.
    I have never been able to hear my fan, the hard drive or anything else in a normal listening environment, the only time I heard the fan was when my ear was right next to it when I was hooking up my PS3 after installing a larger hard drive.
  18. Nov 5, 2008 #198 of 489

    LarryFlowers New Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Don't know the brand of the hard drive since I didn't open my unit to look, bound to be one of the obvious choices though.

    I stated in my section of the report that the unit runs about 12° cooler than the HR20-700, sorry I guess I should have said 112° and you can assume that any unit in a closed environment will run hotter, but temperature is not going to be an issue with this unit the way it was with some of the other units.

    I also stated in my review that there was no discernible fan noise. I do not own a db meter so I can't tell you the exact db the unit runs at, after all these aren't laboratory tests, I can tell you that when in use the unit is less than 8 feet from where I sit.. I can't hear it at all.
  19. Nov 5, 2008 #199 of 489

    say-what Active Member

    Dec 14, 2006
    New Orleans
    1) Don't know what type of HD - it could vary anyway over the course of production runs
    2) I've noticed temps similar to the HR21, about 115 - 120
    3) Mine's on a shelf in an open stand, but the fan engages at about 120 like the HR21 and does a good job of cooling
    4) no idea of dB levels, but it's no noisier than the HR21, which is pretty quiet, and I don't notice it at all
  20. Nov 5, 2008 #200 of 489

    breevesdc Legend

    Aug 13, 2007
    I was at a friend's house weekend before last (Oct. 26th). They had just gotten D* and had these units. At the time I was completely flumoxed. I didn't notice that they were different units than the HR20/HR21/HR22. But they had to be... They only had 1 wire going into their DVRs (they had 4 of them) but they insisted that they could record 2 channels at the same time. And there were no BBCs on any of the units. I tried to tell them that their D* installer botched their install. But I was apparently wrong. Now I know why.

    My friend lives in Alexandria, VA.

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