DBSTalk.com First Look: HR23-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Nov 2, 2008.

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  1. Nov 2, 2008 #41 of 489
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Yes, just like the HR21 and the HR22, the HR23 will support the AM21. It is unlikely that DIRECTV will ever have a built-in OTA tuner and any OTA access will be via an add-on such as the AM21.
  2. Nov 2, 2008 #42 of 489
    Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Jul 12, 2006
    Los Angeles
    Sorry for that .. there is no such thing as an internal BBC .. This uses a wide-band tuner so there is no need for a BBC.
  3. Nov 2, 2008 #43 of 489
    Greg Alsobrook

    Greg Alsobrook Lifetime Achiever

    Apr 1, 2007
    Nice job on the first look guys! Looks great!
  4. Nov 2, 2008 #44 of 489

    russdog Godfather

    Jul 31, 2006
    I don't believe that.

    If a reviewer can toss in a one-line conclusion, completely out-of-the-blue, about the box providing a better picture, he or she can certainly mention the basis for reaching that conclusion. Providing an explanation for such a strong (and rather startling) conclusion does not imply giving away confidential information.
  5. Nov 2, 2008 #45 of 489

    flipptyfloppity New Member

    Aug 20, 2007
    Wow, a board-to-board connector for the power supply. Now we're really getting into serious cost reductions.

    The back panel looks screechingly cheap, but I guess you rarely look at it, so it's no biggie.
  6. Nov 2, 2008 #46 of 489

    mhayes70 New Member

    Mar 21, 2006
    Looks great! You guys did a good job.
  7. Nov 2, 2008 #47 of 489

    gitarzan Godfather

    Dec 31, 2005
    Nice review. Something I always like to see though that never gets enough attention is power consumption. I like to know how much power stuff uses. It can be easily tested with a wattt meter. Some of the Dish receivers use a ridiculous amount of power (in my opinion). DirecTV HD DVR's do a little better.
  8. Nov 2, 2008 #48 of 489

    Coffey77 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Nov 12, 2006
    Great job on the First Look guys! It looks professional as always! :up:
  9. Nov 2, 2008 #49 of 489

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

    Nov 16, 2005
    Wylie, Texas
    Nice job guys.
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    bonscott87 Cutting Edge: ECHELON '07

    Jan 21, 2003
    It almost sounds to me like a comment from someone who got HD for the first time. I can't see the HR23 being all that different, if any, in terms of PQ.

    Good job guys!
  11. Nov 2, 2008 #51 of 489

    Thaedron Hall Of Fame

    Jun 29, 2007
    Very nice review!
  12. Nov 2, 2008 #52 of 489

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Any word on when they'll be available in stores?
  13. Nov 2, 2008 #53 of 489

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006

    I agree too. If the picture is better, concrete proof would be cool. Perhaps a close up comparison side by side pixel level photo. However, I believe it is possible to have a better picture. You can see differences when comparing a $60 DVD player with a $1000 DVD player. I guess the same is possible with DVRs too. Good job guys.
  14. Nov 2, 2008 #54 of 489

    jacmyoung Hall Of Fame

    Sep 8, 2006
    Since the reviewers all must have worked with HD for a long time, I would say the use of the terms such as "sharper picture" and "louder sound" is rather explaining it in ways the general public can relate to. I don't see anything wrong with that. The general CE manufactures always set their TVs's default settings at the so called "torch mode" to give a sharper and brighter first impression in the showroom.

    The question for this crowd is, is D* trying to do the similar thing through some PQ and sound enhancement? Or is there truly any PQ and sound potentials not realized by the older HR models?

    As someone who had used E*'s several HDDVR models and had to consider many elaborate sound proofing techniques, I can't say enough about the benefit of the D* HR series DVRs' quiet and cool running status. If the HR23 is even cooler and quieter, that in itself is a big selling point.
  15. Nov 3, 2008 #55 of 489

    kevinwmsn Hall Of Fame

    Aug 19, 2006
    Nice review. Are the encoding chips the same as the previous model? It would be nice to have PiP one day if the hardware could do it.
  16. Nov 3, 2008 #56 of 489

    bertman64 AllStar

    Aug 24, 2007
    No built in OTA? I've got "OLD" HD Dvr's: 1 HR10-250 and 3 HR20-700's that do! I'll wait for the new TIVO HD DVR thank you very much!
  17. Nov 3, 2008 #57 of 489

    jhillestad Godfather

    Jan 13, 2007
    Waiting for the new Tivo myself.

    I would like to see the new dtv model with a much faster processor so the channels move up or down quicker as well as a much faster guide. Sometimes its like my receiver is in molasses when using the guide.
  18. Nov 3, 2008 #58 of 489

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    I'd say its 50/50 at best that the new tivos will have ota built in... I have a feeling they will be just like the hr2x's today.. you want ota you will need to bu it seperate...

    And they can make these things go faster without changing the chips.... they already have in the last year... Its more than just the processor that needs to be tweaked to speed these babies up...
  19. Nov 3, 2008 #59 of 489

    Halo Godfather

    Jan 13, 2006
    I suspect that it's the newer BCM7335 cpu. It's the only broadcom DVR chip that has the dual wideband tuners. It's also much faster than the BCM7401 at 950 DMIPS (compared to 450 DMIPS for the 7401). Faster memory interface too (DDR2 versus DDR-SDRAM on the 7401). No surprise if it has slightly better audio and video processing. Unfortunately it appears that the BCM7335 still has only one mpeg4/AVC decoder which means PIP is not possible.

    It IS possible it's still a 7401 with a new input stage. I highly doubt it though. No reason for them to do it that way when a newer, much better and not much more expensive chip is available.
    If someone who has a HR23 wants to be brave and look under the black heat sink then we'll know for certain.
  20. Nov 3, 2008 #60 of 489

    Halo Godfather

    Jan 13, 2006
    But only try it if you have experience with with this kind of thing! And if the heat sink is glued on then just leave it alone. Don't want anyone breaking their new toy!:lol:
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