DBSTalk.com First Look: HR23-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Nov 2, 2008.

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  1. Nov 2, 2008 #41 of 489
    Doug Brott

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    Yes, just like the HR21 and the HR22, the HR23 will support the AM21. It is unlikely that DIRECTV will ever have a built-in OTA tuner and any OTA access will be via an add-on such as the AM21.
     
  2. Nov 2, 2008 #42 of 489
    Doug Brott

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    Sorry for that .. there is no such thing as an internal BBC .. This uses a wide-band tuner so there is no need for a BBC.
     
  3. Nov 2, 2008 #43 of 489
    Greg Alsobrook

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    Nice job on the first look guys! Looks great!
     
  4. Nov 2, 2008 #44 of 489
    russdog

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    I don't believe that.

    If a reviewer can toss in a one-line conclusion, completely out-of-the-blue, about the box providing a better picture, he or she can certainly mention the basis for reaching that conclusion. Providing an explanation for such a strong (and rather startling) conclusion does not imply giving away confidential information.
     
  5. Nov 2, 2008 #45 of 489
    flipptyfloppity

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    Wow, a board-to-board connector for the power supply. Now we're really getting into serious cost reductions.

    The back panel looks screechingly cheap, but I guess you rarely look at it, so it's no biggie.
     
  6. Nov 2, 2008 #46 of 489
    mhayes70

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    Looks great! You guys did a good job.
     
  7. Nov 2, 2008 #47 of 489
    gitarzan

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    Nice review. Something I always like to see though that never gets enough attention is power consumption. I like to know how much power stuff uses. It can be easily tested with a wattt meter. Some of the Dish receivers use a ridiculous amount of power (in my opinion). DirecTV HD DVR's do a little better.
     
  8. Nov 2, 2008 #48 of 489
    Coffey77

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    Great job on the First Look guys! It looks professional as always! :up:
     
  9. Nov 2, 2008 #49 of 489
    spartanstew

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    Nice job guys.
     
  10. Nov 2, 2008 #50 of 489
    bonscott87

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    It almost sounds to me like a comment from someone who got HD for the first time. I can't see the HR23 being all that different, if any, in terms of PQ.

    Good job guys!
     
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    Thaedron

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    Very nice review!
     
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    TheRatPatrol

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    Any word on when they'll be available in stores?
     
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    Hutchinshouse

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    I agree too. If the picture is better, concrete proof would be cool. Perhaps a close up comparison side by side pixel level photo. However, I believe it is possible to have a better picture. You can see differences when comparing a $60 DVD player with a $1000 DVD player. I guess the same is possible with DVRs too. Good job guys.
     
  14. Nov 2, 2008 #54 of 489
    jacmyoung

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    Since the reviewers all must have worked with HD for a long time, I would say the use of the terms such as "sharper picture" and "louder sound" is rather explaining it in ways the general public can relate to. I don't see anything wrong with that. The general CE manufactures always set their TVs's default settings at the so called "torch mode" to give a sharper and brighter first impression in the showroom.

    The question for this crowd is, is D* trying to do the similar thing through some PQ and sound enhancement? Or is there truly any PQ and sound potentials not realized by the older HR models?

    As someone who had used E*'s several HDDVR models and had to consider many elaborate sound proofing techniques, I can't say enough about the benefit of the D* HR series DVRs' quiet and cool running status. If the HR23 is even cooler and quieter, that in itself is a big selling point.
     
  15. Nov 3, 2008 #55 of 489
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    Nice review. Are the encoding chips the same as the previous model? It would be nice to have PiP one day if the hardware could do it.
     
  16. Nov 3, 2008 #56 of 489
    bertman64

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    No built in OTA? I've got "OLD" HD Dvr's: 1 HR10-250 and 3 HR20-700's that do! I'll wait for the new TIVO HD DVR thank you very much!
     
  17. Nov 3, 2008 #57 of 489
    jhillestad

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    Waiting for the new Tivo myself.

    I would like to see the new dtv model with a much faster processor so the channels move up or down quicker as well as a much faster guide. Sometimes its like my receiver is in molasses when using the guide.
     
  18. Nov 3, 2008 #58 of 489
    inkahauts

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    I'd say its 50/50 at best that the new tivos will have ota built in... I have a feeling they will be just like the hr2x's today.. you want ota you will need to bu it seperate...

    And they can make these things go faster without changing the chips.... they already have in the last year... Its more than just the processor that needs to be tweaked to speed these babies up...
     
  19. Nov 3, 2008 #59 of 489
    Halo

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    I suspect that it's the newer BCM7335 cpu. It's the only broadcom DVR chip that has the dual wideband tuners. It's also much faster than the BCM7401 at 950 DMIPS (compared to 450 DMIPS for the 7401). Faster memory interface too (DDR2 versus DDR-SDRAM on the 7401). No surprise if it has slightly better audio and video processing. Unfortunately it appears that the BCM7335 still has only one mpeg4/AVC decoder which means PIP is not possible.

    It IS possible it's still a 7401 with a new input stage. I highly doubt it though. No reason for them to do it that way when a newer, much better and not much more expensive chip is available.
    If someone who has a HR23 wants to be brave and look under the black heat sink then we'll know for certain.
     
  20. Nov 3, 2008 #60 of 489
    Halo

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    But only try it if you have experience with with this kind of thing! And if the heat sink is glued on then just leave it alone. Don't want anyone breaking their new toy!:lol:
     
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