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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 24, 2011.
Anyone read Swanni's rant against this app at TVPredictions? Thought it was pretty funny myself.
I walked away trying to figure out why he would basically suggest tech writers not write about tech stuff because college kids and a family of 4 in Iowa can't afford tech stuff.
Maybe they should only write about free tech stuff? Wait - the app is free!!!!
Gotta love his math used to get to the 160,000, too. In this thread alone I've counted more than 10 who will buy an iPad just so they can use this app!
Yep... reminds me of his many rants against 3D.
Regardless of my personal opinion regarding a tech product or whether or not I have one, plan to get one, or can even afford one, I enjoy reading about them.
I don't believe in stopping technical progress because some family of four in Des Moines, a retiree in Texas, a new college graduate in Boston, or even a poor man in Dawson, GA can't afford something... particularly when that something is non-essential (TV, iPad, etc.).
If there were Bluetooth receivers in TVs and AV receivers, or if those devices were all connected via the LAN, and if they were all compatible with Directv's IP control system, then they could be controlled by the iPad.
If "ifs" and "buts" were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas...
Sorry... couldn't help myself. Too many "ifs" in your quote to leave that one alone.
Agreed - but we're still a few years from seeing that sort of connectivity. It will happen though, and likely relatively soon.
The home automation folks will integrate everything right down to our lights, fridges, toasters and electronics. IP control is the way to go, and a tablet and/or smartphone is the perfect hand held device. They are already everywhere.
This app and ones like it are giving manufacturers reasons to jump in!
I don't quite get why you're even commenting. I was replying to the comment I quoted about needing WiFi to control anything via iPad. That's actually not true, since the iPad has Bluetooth, but the reality is this:
#1) Since all those OTHER devices have to have network connectivity, the iPad will never be a universal remote
and more to the point
#) THE APP IS NOT A REMOTE CONTROL. This is what people are missing - the app is an accessory or addition to the viewing experience that also has basic remote functions. However, it is not in and of itself a replacement for your full-featured remote control.
I'm weak (which I apologized for)...
... and yes, I understood what you were saying.
Isn't DNLA supposed to address such issue? Most newer smartphones are DNLA compliant, so are many new TVs and media players, so are the DirecTV receivers.
At the moment, DIRECTV boxes are not DLNA compliant, and this app addresses some of that functionality.
I love being able to setup a panel for the movie channels so I can see days ahead for that channel alone. I have panels for HBO, Showtime and Cinemax so I can just browse them for the days to come.
I like the guide itself so I don't have to bring up the guide on screen, especially since there's still that annoying black space at the top of my PIG on my HR24.
I like the remote being there too since I have my iPad in my hands 90% of the time I'm in front of the TV already. I was, before IP control at least, having to put down my iPad to grab the remote to 30 skip, stop, pause, etc.
In some evil nightmare world maybe. However converging on home automation is not a good thing. My remote control system is not cheap and I find either the price or the lack of capability in current HA systems stunning. I like some things about the current app but I'd prefer if DTV just opened up the API so I not at the mercy of the Crestrons and Control4s of the world. Give consumers fair choices.
At the risk of veering this thread off into another direction (don't want to do that):
DNLA is more for sharing content between devices. Streaming files or looking at JPG's for example. Sony originated the idea, and Apple is essentially ignoring it. It's not a standard for 'control'.
I was addressing the idea of 'control'. It's always a 'chicken and egg' thing with this stuff, and this app may drive sales of devices it can 'control', and new ways to do that.
The content part of the app is the meat of the app today, however.
Does this explain why my HDDVRs can only play some of the media formats from my DNLA devices but not most of them?
I agree, and to this end I think content streaming should be the biggest part of this puzzle. It also solves the "control" issue in that control of other devices is no longer needed, everything one wants is on the iPad.
Even devices that claim to be DNLA compliant will not 'play' all media formats. The standard (without getting too technical here) is not adhered to and claims by manufacturers for their devices are very often exaggerated. And Apple doesn't do DLNA at all.
Control is the issue. If you can remotely control your devices, then 95% of what you want to have in whatever room you are in can be simple. Especially if you can use a familiar device to do the controlling, like your smart phone or tablet.
If your smart phone or tablet can also do what this app can do, then you've got the world in your pocket, as long as your devices can be controlled just by connecting to your personal 'net or the www.
Apps like these are just the beginning. That's why this is very exciting.
Yes. DIRECTV's media sharing uses some DLNA protocols but is not fully compliant.
The tech for streaming exists right now, obviously. And your smart phone and/or tablet can do that easily.
That is not the issue, it's rights to the content. Once the studios see the value and companies like D* can do the deals, we'll have it the next day.
Netflix, for example, just signed a deal with CBS so that they can stream their catalog beginning in April. (Star Trek fans - all versions - rejoice!)
It will happen for D*'s customers eventually. It has to for them to survive. To a certain extent, this app will drive that too.
Agreed... streaming will come. But in the meantime, it's still a cool app.
+1 on many levels.
It will help create the buzz needed to get stuff like an HD guide, streaming etc. into our homes.
In the meantime, we have a very cool new free toy that works great!