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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR24-500 DVR (and H24-100 Receiver)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Feb 12, 2010.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    Good to know... my HR23-700 sometimes takes a while...

    inkahauts: Thanks for the replies. While I'm still interested if there is even the SLIGHTEST speed decrease (yes, I have my reasons) in the unit with 50 Series Links, I thank you for answering my other questions well enough for me.

    ~Alan
     
  2. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    Yes. They boot in about 4 minutes.
     
  3. Sixto

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    1. I have 16 series links. High is usually about 25.

    2. The lights are touch sensitive, just like the touch sensitive buttons on a number of TV's.

    3. From powered off to the channel banner is 2.5 seconds attached via HDMI. Then about another .5 seconds to the picture displays. This might be TV dependent, with component-attached being different.

    4. Hitting play for a recording until picture displays is about 1.9-2.1 seconds.

    5. Red button delete is quick. Just did with 90 minute program. Took 2.1 seconds.

    Most of these tests took me longer to hit the stopwatch. :)

    The box is very responsive. No need to go over board with our comparison, but it's much more responsive then the previous generations with the same firmware.
     
  4. Canis Lupus

    Canis Lupus You make it, We break it

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    Yeah for me I'd say HR20-700 is 2nd fastest, followed by 21-700 and then R22-100(withHD).

    Also I forgot to note that remote deletions through MRV are also much faster when the H24 is deleting a program served by the HR24, while MRV deletions of programs served from the 21-700 and R22-100 and deleted by the HR24 and H24 are only slightly faster.

    So the server of the MRV program seems to play a role in the remote delete performance of the client in my experience.
     
  5. TheRatPatrol

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    I was talking more with the guide.
     
  6. Sixto

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    Just did a reboot from the restart receiver screen.

    From pressing the dash until picture was 3 minutes 57.82 seconds.
     
  7. Canis Lupus

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    Yes - guide or list scrolling using CH up or down is much faster. I use CH a lot. A note as well that it's faster with both local playlist and Unified playlist (in my case 2 other DVRs outside the DECA cloud, connected wirelessly).
     
  8. Alan Gordon

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    I have to wait a minute (OK, less than a minute, but seems like longer) AFTER my picture comes up on my HR23-700 before I can use the remote. My picture comes up fairly quick, and like you said, is more dependent on HDMI handshaking than anything else really. I was more interested in the remote issue.

    I understand... and I certainly didn't intend on someone going above and beyond (with a stop-watch). My questions were simply to gauge whether or not certain functions (which are often extremely slow in my normal usage) have experienced equal speed upgrades as well as previously mentioned ones.

    ~Alan
     
  9. Scott Kocourek

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    Thanks for the reboot times. When I got my first HR, I had spontaneous reboots and they took 9 minutes. (Doesn't happen anymore.) 4 +/- minutes is awesome.
     
  10. Sixto

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    There's speed testing and then there's practical use.

    Doing a test right now ...

    In the GUIDE, if you hit page down, and want to see the full screen that you've scrolled to, the screen just about refreshes as fast as you can hit page down.

    GUIDE appears in 1.0-1.2 seconds. Just did it several times with a stopwatch.
     
  11. Flyrx7

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    For the price of 1TB these days I'm really surprised it still has a 500GB drive. What are they, like $30-$40 difference, if that, for double the storage. With that said:

    - Is it confirmed that the eSata II drives will plug and play? (say for instance, my Seagate 750GB currently hooked up to the HR20-100) I know I'll lose the content.

    - Are eSata II external drives going to be supported officially, or is this still an unofficial enhancement?

    - Are any testers willing to comment on Pixelation and audio drop-outs? Are they more or less prevalent?

    - Any noticeble system lags due to DP being enabled? Pixelation, slow remote responses? etc.

    Thanks,
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  12. veryoldschool

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    I think I know what you're asking and yes there still is a bit of a lag from the first time the show/recording starts playing and when the remote functions [skip ahead] start to work. This may be only a few secs, but as with the other DVRs, it's still there. As I remember HD takes longer than SD for the remote to "kick in".
     
  13. Sixto

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    Oh yeah, that last comment in my post wasn't specifically addressed to you. :)

    Was just commenting that it's faster then previous units, and we shouldn't go overboard that everything is instantaneous ... but it is much quicker then any previous generation, and very nice to use in daily operation.
     
  14. Canis Lupus

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    Overall I would say there are speed increases in every facet of the HR24's use. I haven't found a spot where I was surprised not to see it working faster. Maybe others have found 1 or more though.
     
  15. Alan Gordon

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    To pick up on what Sixto is saying though, it is still faster than previous (HR21-23) units, correct?

    ~Alan
     
  16. Sixto

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    It was probably a business decision to save $30-$40. 30-40 times millions of receivers is big dollars. Analysis has probably been done and $199 and 100 hours of HD is the design point.

    Don't know about SATA II.

    Have not experienced any pixelation or audio drop-outs. The dish is tuned, and the entire infrastructure has been designed with SWM and Quad shielded RG6. Have never had any issue on any receiver.

    No system lags.
     
  17. Canis Lupus

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    I actually tried this the other day after someone (in the trial i think) brought up this point (maybe it was VOS himself? Can't recall). My experience when trying it though was an almost instant response for the remote to "kick in". Definitely not a few seconds, but IIRC someone did mention it was longer than my experience. Not sure also if this "kick in" time is affected by local vs. MRV (after the program starts because there is still a delay in start times over MRV), and H24 vs. HR24 etc.
     
  18. Sixto

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    Not sure I had understood the question.

    From Play to the start of the recording is quick.

    I usually then just watch so I never hit trickplay immediately.

    I just tried. It's pretty dam quick.

    I hit play, 1.8-2.1 seconds later I see the recording, I then hit FF and it immediately went to FF1. No delay what-so-ever.
     
  19. Syzygy

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    Then maybe the HR24 doesn't have some of the following issues (that my HR21 has):

    • Entering letters with the numeric keypad ("triple-tapping") frequently generates mistakes (perhaps because a button press is acted on too late). For instance, pressing the '3' button twice sometimes generates 'DD' instead of 'E', no matter how quickly (or slowly) you do it.
    • All remote button presses are ignored for the first few seconds after playback starts.
    • Press-and-hold functions sometimes engage when you don't want them to.
    • You can't pause a recording on the right frame unless you anticipate and press the Pause key early.
    • Instant Replay takes so long to engage that frequently you go back less than 6 seconds.
    • Missed recordings are still happening with Keyword Autorecords (even when the ARSL is long-established). [A long shot, I know.]

    Please, anyone, tell us whether the Superman-fast HR24 has any of these problems. (For any of these problems that remains, I'd guess the developers still have work to do. Triple-tap errors, especially, likely arise from faulty timekeeping in the kernel, IMO.)

    I'd like to understand that paragraph, but I'm drawing a blank on it. Could you clarify?
     
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