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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. usnret

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    So the HR44 is faster than the HR34. What else is new with the HR44? I got my HR34 last Feb. It has had some problems but I just kinda go with the flow. I can't quite figure out why D has come up with the 44 after only 1 year of the 34. I would like to keep my 34, dump my HR22 and HR24, replace the 22 with another 34 and replace the 24 with a C31. Any idea as to when a person might be able to get a 2nd 34?
     
  2. hdtvfan0001

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    The answers to those questions are in the first post of this thread -within the First Look document itself.
     
  3. CCarncross

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    Agreed, I will say that optical cables.connections are far more fragile than digital coax, cables are slightly more expensive, and dust is an enemy. Coax is much more bullet-proof. After I upgraded to HDMI, havent needed either since!
     
  4. Richierich

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    I think the HR44 is very much the same thing as an HR34 but with a Faster Processor and other Hardware Enhancements but the Software should be the same so I don't forsee a lot of BUGS in this Hardware Release (actually probably a lot fewer because they were worked out in the HR34 Release).
     
  5. Richierich

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    Well, that Nomad Case was an Exception to the Rule and only happened because there were some unforeseen problems and issues that arose that had to be dealt with but in the end it will be a Great Product and one that I Definitely Want In My Arsenal of Directv Products.

    It is definitely Great for the Business Traveler or other Frequent Flyer Participants.

    That has Nothing to do with the Release of the HR44 and after appropriate Testing Directv will Release it to us and I do not want them to Rush it into Production if it is Not Ready!!!

    I'm betting on 3 to 4 months and I am a Betting Man!!! (But Not In Vegas as they have the Odds with them). :lol:
     
  6. iceburg02

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    I read this statement a couple times in this thread, but the HR34 is available through SolidSignal and other sites. Surely when the HR44 is released, you'll be able to specifically order one from them - albeit possibly not on day 1.

    I don't think I've ordered a receiver directly from D* in the last 5 years for exactly this reason.
     
  7. inkahauts

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    Sure, but solid signal can't discount one to be free like DIRECTV can, which is a major consideration for many.
     
  8. macfan601

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    Says who? What have you been smoke'n? Directv never in my 12 years as a customer has ever put out anything that has not had problems in the beginning. Sorry but I don't drink the company koolade. I do think they are the best TV service out there but they are far from perfect. If what you are saying were true there would be no need to offer the HR44 as it has very little if any real upgrade over the HR34.
     
  9. Richierich

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    Wrong!!!

    This Puppy has a Faster CPU and More Hardware Enhancements and if it Wasn't Significantly Better than why would they be offering it as the Next Best Thang!!!

    That is why I am Waiting To Get An HR44 versus getting an HR34 Now!!!

    Not that for a lot of people the HR34 would be great for their needs.

    I'd Rather Wait!!! :lol:
     
  10. macfan601

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    I have a bridge for sale. Interested? It is the latest and greatest too. The reports I have read say the HR44 is a 10th of a second faster. You won't even be able to notice that. I sure don't want wireless or that new very limited remote control. The problem is very clear. Directv is now aiming their offerings at Ma and Pa Kettle and not the enthusiasts/hobbyists like they used to. If they wanted to offer a new improved Genie then it needed to have 8 tuners and a 5TB drive. Now while you are trying to figure out what I said, Riddle me this: The rumor is before the year is out Directv will change its protection plan to give you free receiver upgrades every two years. Since Directv won't guarantee what receiver you will get chances are pretty good those will actually be downgrades. But here is the kicker, if you trade in your receiver every two years you have lost all of your recordings every two years. Ya, if Directv says it is the latest and greatest it sure must be. LOL
     
  11. Sixto

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    My view ...

    The HR20 was DirecTV's first in-house developed DVR, and it was tweaked with the HR21, HR22, and HR23. The technology and architecture was developed in 2005/2006, and it was the DirecTV leading DVR for a good 3-4 years.

    The HR24 is the 2nd generation, it was developed after gathering a good 3-4 years of experience, it's based on 2009 technology, and it's still the standard today for a basic 2-tuner DVR. It's an excellent box, fairly speedy, and there are a few manufacturers, thus the current 2-tuner DVR standard for DirecTV.

    The HR34 was DirecTV's first attempt at an HMC/RVU server, and as expected with any first generation implementation, especially when you're inventing a entirely new client/server delivery model (RVU), there was much to be learned and fine tuned in the process. The HR34 was developed with 2010 technology, it was publicly mentioned late 2010, followed by a major public unveiling at CES in January 2011, over 2 years ago.

    The HR44 is the 2nd generation HMC/RVU server, probably much has been learned from the HR34 since 2010, it's been updated with 2012 technology (thus a 3 year refresh), and it will be the gold standard (my opinion) going forward. If you listen to what was discussed at CES 2013, there appears to be at least 3 manufacturers lined up, with a full launch in 2013, similar to the HR24 multiple manufacturer concept for the workhorse.

    So to answer your question, what would I do in your situation, if I was in no rush, I'd go with the new gold standard, the box with the latest technology, since the next major refresh may be a few years away.

    The HR34 was an excellent interim solution, both to compete with the Hopper but also to develop the RVU delivery model, until the HR44 follow-on box is ready, which hopefully is somewhat early in 2013.

    That's my honest opinion, based on publicly available information in the forums at DBSTalk.
     
  12. Sixto

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    Performance is always a very subjective concept, especially for TV viewing, but I'd compare the performance difference between an HR44 vs HR34, as similar to my initial thoughts on the difference between an HR24 vs HR20. I'm not including the HR21/HR22/HR23 in the comparison because they always were slower then the HR20 due to the chipset differences that we've analyzed for years here at DBSTalk.

    Now, while I've always thought that the HR24 was significantly faster then the HR20, there are many here at DBSTalk that don't notice or mind the speed difference, thus it's all relative.

    While there might tend to be some lag with the HR34, there's virtually zero lag with any function on the HR44.

    One person's view ... I've yet to find anything at all to complain about with the HR44, especially when you combine it with speedy H25 clients, and a nice nomad for offline viewing of content on the road. Awesome, and I'm fairly critical.
     
  13. Richierich

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    How much do you want for your Bridge as I have $10,000,000 coming to me from an Investment and that sounds like a DEAL to me!!! :lol:
     
  14. macfan601

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    That's why they make chocolate and vanilla. Let's agree to disagree. Personally, I wouldn't want the setup you described. My setup is H24, HR24, and HR34. It is perfect for me. The only thing I am going to add to it is an external eSata toaster to my HR34 as I need far more storage and want the ability to easily swap hard drives.

    Forgot to mention: One of the thing that bugs me about the H25 and the HR44 is the external power pack. I hate those.
     
  15. Sixto

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    Hmmm. What's to disagree about. You have a great setup.

    I lived with almost that exact same setup for the last few years.

    The question was to compare the HR44 to the HR34 for a potential new subscriber.
     
  16. inkahauts

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    Ok, first, I am not sure what you are trying to say, maybe my post didn't come across right. I was talking about the stability of the hr44 when it hits vs where the HR34 stability was when it hit a year ago. It will not be the same.

    Um, check the first look, its no secret I have an hr44 and am using it now. It has for me less issues that my HR34 does, and the issues are minor for me anyway that it has. And some of the largest issues I see posted on all their units is almost always related to speed and responsiveness to the remote and navigating menus, etc. that is something the hr44 has just never suffers from for me. Especially responsiveness.

    My point is simply that the stability of this unit is in line with where the HR34 is now. Its not where the HR34 was a year ago when it was released.

    From your other posts you seem to think this unit doesn't add anything, speed will be negligible, etc. You will have to play with it someday to really understand, but its just the responsiveness that makes such a massive improvement for me. I like the other receivers I have, and the HR34 is great for me, but compared to the hr44, all I can say is the HR34 just isn't a hr44.
     
  17. Sixto

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    With all the talk of performance ...

    Hit MENU, wait for screen to complete. HR34 2.2-2.5 seconds, HR44 .9-1.1 seconds.

    Hit GUIDE, similar results.

    Neither is slow.

    HR24-500 is closer to the HR44 results, but slightly above. 1.2-1.4ish.

    H25 is slightly below the HR44, and is clearly the fastest DirecTV receiver, almost instantaneous. Sub 1 second.
     
  18. rmmccann

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    So those of us that got an HR34 - how hard is it going to be to convince D* to allow us to "swap" for an HR44? I'm less interested in the responsiveness and more interested in the smaller form factor and external power supply. Heat and space is an issue in my entertainment stand.
     
  19. RAD

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    Swap for free, IMHO doubtful for at least a couple years, for a price probably as soon as they are available.
     
  20. Scott Kocourek

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    I feel obligated to mention again that the HR44-700 is not available right now and I ask that you do not call DIRECTV to ask for one because there has not been a release date yet.
     

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