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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Feb 2, 2013 #441 of 672
    Mike Bertelson

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    Okay, let's get back to discussing the HR 44

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  2. Feb 2, 2013 #442 of 672
    Mike Greer

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    What is so difficult here? If 'this' free space is full then use 'this' free space....

    The OS itself has no problem supporting multiple drives.

    It doesn't matter how Tivo does it or anyone else for that matter. If DirecTV wanted to support 'Adding' space rather than replacing the internal drive with an external drive it would be a simple thing. It isn't finding a cure for cancer or sending a man to mars. An IBM pc from 1981 could store data in multiple places - and so can DirecTV. They have just chosen not to.

    I'd love to have the HR44 support just pluggin in external drives - even if was just like Dish does it....
     
  3. Feb 2, 2013 #443 of 672
    Sixto

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    As Mike said ... eSATA elsewhere.
     
  4. Feb 2, 2013 #444 of 672
    some guy

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    The genie doesn't support an EHD? Do any Direct boxes support EHD? How big is the genie HD, 1 TB?
     
  5. Feb 2, 2013 #445 of 672
    Scott Kocourek

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    You absolutely can put an external HDD on the Genie, I don't know what the size limit is because nobody has hit it yet.
     
  6. Feb 2, 2013 #446 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    All of the DirecTV HD DVRs support eSATA drives from the standpoint that they will work. They do not however support them if you call in because of an issue with an eSATA drive.

    A Genie has a 1TB drive but will support much greater, no limit, via eSATA. I personally have used up to 12TB on my HR34.
     
  7. Feb 2, 2013 #447 of 672
    inazsully

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    Didn't mean to start a @##@#en contest. Just wonder why "E" can do it and it seems logical that many would want it, and "D" doesn't do it. Like Mike said, from a engineering and technical stand point it would be an easy thing to accomplish. For me this very much pertains to the HR44. They made upgrades or changes from the HR34 and this would be a big incentive for me to go for the HR44.
     
  8. Feb 2, 2013 #448 of 672
    Mike Greer

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    I had hoped they would change it once they got past the 2TB limit.

    I'm sure it just isn't high on their priority list.

    Maybe some day.... A guess its one step at a time.:)
     
  9. Feb 2, 2013 #449 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    It could be something as simple as the same reason they chose black and blue for the GUI colors, they just wanted to.
     
  10. Feb 3, 2013 #450 of 672
    acostapimps

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    Just that external power pack alone would create problems space-wise, oh well rearranging would be in order
     
  11. Feb 3, 2013 #451 of 672
    Rich

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    Easy to do on the SD TiVos. No RAID required. I think the reason the HDDs are not added together is that D* doesn't want everyone opening the boxes. There is plenty of room in the boxes for an extra bracket that would hold a drive that would couple with the internal drive as the TiVos did. That said, I could care less about the internal drive being wasted. 2TBs of capacity is more than enough for anybody who is not interested in recording every show on TV. I think.

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  12. Feb 3, 2013 #452 of 672
    Rich

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    Having replaced several power supplies, I'd be happy to see an external brick. I'd get one extra brick, just in case. And, nobody should forget, if the 44 goes south, all the content goes with it. So, even if you have 24TBs of capacity on a 44, it's all gonna be lost. If D* solves that problem, I'd be really happy.

    Rich
     
  13. Feb 3, 2013 #453 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    If you're referring to "blessing" a drive that is a form of software RAID that created a JBOD volume.

    Agreed, don't care about internal being wasted. I'd rather it be wasted then have it die as part of an "expanded set" and take out everything with the external drive is still good. And with the Genies you don't have to stop at 2TB.
     
  14. Feb 3, 2013 #454 of 672
    Rich

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    Had no idea what I was doing then, just knew how to do it. Even then there were limitations.

    Yup, that was the problem I encountered with putting 2 drives in the SD TiVos.

    We should also keep explaining that, even with that massive RAID setup you have, if the HR goes south, you're gonna lose all the content. The battle to allow us to view content from HDDs recorded withing an account by any HR should be continued even if it seems impossible to win. I think.

    Rich
     
  15. Feb 3, 2013 #455 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    Correct. My RAID setup only protects my recordings if there is a drive failure. I lose them all if the HR itself fails.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2013 #456 of 672
    Rich

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    And there's the rub. After over 6 years of asking for something that's gotta be relatively simple (I can't back up that statement, don't have the knowledge), wouldn't you think someone would do something about this?

    Frustrating, I think.

    Rich
     
  17. Feb 3, 2013 #457 of 672
    RunnerFL

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    After this amount of time I would think if they were going to give it to us they would have by now. Sad...
     
  18. Feb 3, 2013 #458 of 672
    Rich

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    I'm not giving up. I see no reason they can't do it.

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  19. Feb 4, 2013 #459 of 672
    top_speed

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    My biggest gripe!!
    C'mon DTV, let the hard-drive be married to the account not the box!
     
  20. Feb 4, 2013 #460 of 672
    Rich

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    There you go! We should all express our opinions on this problem.

    Problem? Of course it's a problem and a major one. Just lose an HR with a nearly full HDD and you'll understand! Over 6 years and counting. Nothing done. Sad.

    Rich
     

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