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DBSTalk Exclusive First Look: HR44-700 Genie

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Scott Kocourek, Jan 8, 2013.

  1. Stuart Sweet

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    Rich...

    the simple fact is that no one knows for sure how that's going to pan out, and anyone who tells you he does know for sure is being hopeful and optimistic, that's all.

    I know that looking at HR2x DVRs, people with HR24s have had mixed success trying to get them replaced with other HR24s.
     
  2. Stuart Sweet

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    They're thinking for most people, there isn't a difference. Again, looking at how HR24 swapouts have gone in the past, the option for someone with a broken HR44 would probably be to reject and return any HR34 sent to them.

    At any rate, the failure rate of these boxes is quite low, don't you think? Not that they never break, but it's not like most people have failures happen regularly. For what it's worth I've had about 15 DVRs in the last 6 years and only one was a genuine failure.
     
  3. Mike Greer

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    Another reason why I put up with having to restart one of my HR24s every week.... I didn't buy my way out of 3 HR22s just to get stuck with another one when they decide to send me a replacement HR22...:(
     
  4. Stuart Sweet

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    Yes, exactly.
     
  5. cypherx

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    I think if you pay money for the protection plan, that should guarantee your replacement to be of equal (or better) value. After all your paying into the plan so it's an up-sell option that is supposed to give you piece of mind, and also compensate DirecTV for the administrative costs of tracking such things.
     
  6. Mike Greer

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    I'd think that if the HR44 is as fast as people are posting here that 'most people' would notice the slowdown when they get an HR34 to replace a failed HR44. They'll certainly notice the HR34 is giant sized in comparison and the remote will have to change too....

    You'd think it would be more painful for DirecTV to deal with the remote swaps and complaints than to just stop considering them 'equal' when they really are not.
     
  7. Mike Greer

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    That's the problem - in DirecTV's sick and twisted world:lol: an HR34 equals and HR44.
     
  8. cypherx

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    Well Mike you know what else they would notice? Lack of wifi on an HR34 if they depended on it with an HR44.

    But we are really getting ahead of ourselves! Talking about an HR44 failure replacement when it's not even publically available yet.
     
  9. Mr. Tact

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    A good scout is always prepared.. :D
     
  10. Mike Greer

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    Good point on the WiFi! They'll also have a hell of a time keeping track of the external power supply too. What a nightmare!

    I don't think it is too soon to talk about it because if a failed HR44 can be replaced with an HR34 that directly affects at least my buying in or not. Worst part is that people that don't frequent here will be going in blind and could find out the hard way when their DVR gets 'downgraded' because of a hard drive failure. I can hear the calls now.... But what happened to my remote control? But what happened to my simultaneous IR/RF? Why is my 'new' receiver so slow? What happened to my WiFi? Why is thing so big? Answer - that is DirecTV policy. HR34=HR44.:mad:

    I'm glad I don't have to explain and defend this 'policy'!:lol:
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    :shrug: having one of what you're calling "slow", I need to ask if you've ever had your hands on one?
    If this was last year, I'd say it would be noticeable, but now it's barely noticeable to me.
     
  12. Rich

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    Don't know if the wording still exists, but it used to be "equal to or better than" when you get a replacement. Since D* still views all the DVRs with the same size HDDs in them "functionally equal", they can get away with it. And, since most subs don't know the difference, you might as well be talking to a wall. We are a very small group compared to all the subs.

    By the way, I don't think they're all equivalent, please don't argue this point with me, all I'm gonna do is agree with you, unless you buy into that "functionally equivalent" argument.

    Rich
     
  13. Mr. Tact

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    Exactly why I asked the question. Let's hope by the time the HR44 is available that D* figures out the HR34 is not an equivalent replacement for it.
     
  14. Scott Kocourek

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    I agree with this. My HR34 has been very fast lately, I think it's faster than my HR24 but haven't cared enough to actually test it. :)
     
  15. Mike Greer

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    Obviously I have no first-hand knowledge... I'm just going by the glowing reviews of people that have them... Most of which say their HR34s are not 'Slow'.

    Didn't intend to turn this into another 'slow' thread - just pointing out it is not going to be easy for DirecTV to claim an HR34 equals and HR44.
     
  16. Rich

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    Mike, you're being logical again. That rarely works well.

    Rich
     
  17. inkahauts

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    The HR34 is fast too. It is not a HR21 by any stretch. Its like an HR24 for me.


    I really think everyone is worrying about something that they don't need to though. I have a feeling that they will be making so many more hr44 than hr34s that within a year the hr44 will out number the HR34 in the field by 5x 1 or more, and the HR34 will likely stop (or maybe already has been) being made.

    Add to that the external power supply being field replaceable now, and if you use an esata drive, its hard to say that the hr44 is a risky venture and that you could be stuck with a real bad unit should it actually break down. 99% of people will be totally fine with an HR34 in the long run.

    One thing that might be able to guarantee you an hr44 in the future should they realize it would be an issue, if third party companies have remotes soon that work with the new rf in the hr44. That is the most critical usability difference between the two if you ask me.
     
  18. cypherx

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    I'll tell you my H24-200 is faster than my HR24-200. Sure the HR is doing more tasks keeping up with the hard drive, buffering and possibly recording...

    I'm still interested in the HR44. Either when the price comes down or when we are sure that all the HR34's are phased out. If I have to wait a year then maybe that's what has to be done.

    Everything here is working. The only real reason for "genie" is to no longer ever have to shuffle recordings around because 2 things are already set and a 3rd can't record. I'd LOVE to have 5 tuners!
     
  19. Richierich

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    Me Too!!! :D
     
  20. ladannen

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    My house currently has 6 tuners (3 HR2x boxes spread through the house) but I might consider "downgrading" to 5 tuners to keep all recordings in one place. But I think I will insist on the HR44 just for the new technology involved over the HR34.
     

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