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DIRECTV has made networking even easier with the DIRECTV Wireless Digital Cinema Connection kit! This one device will work with SWiM and legacy systems, and can be configured right from the receiver!


Wireless DCCK First Look


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#154 ·
gio12 said:
How did you do this? I have one coming Tuesday and want to set it up this way.
I did a direct ethernet connection from my laptop to the WDCCK using the cable they supplied. The default IP address of the WDCCK is http://169.254.1.100:8080. I had to tell my laptop to use an IP address in that range to see it, for example, I set my laptop to use 169.254.1.99. Next I entered the WDCCK default IP address in my browser. That should bring up the setup web page. Just enter the user name "admin" and password "admin" and you should have access to change any settings you need.
 
#155 ·
nike5580 said:
I did a direct ethernet connection from my laptop to the WDCCK using the cable they supplied. The default IP address of the WDCCK is http://169.254.1.100:8080. I had to tell my laptop to use an IP address in that range to see it, for example, I set my laptop to use 169.254.1.99. Next I entered the WDCCK default IP address in my browser. That should bring up the setup web page. Just enter the user name "admin" and password "admin" and you should have access to change any settings you need.
Cool! Thanks
 
#156 ·
nike5580 said:
I did a direct ethernet connection from my laptop to the WDCCK using the cable they supplied. The default IP address of the WDCCK is http://169.254.1.100:8080. I had to tell my laptop to use an IP address in that range to see it, for example, I set my laptop to use 169.254.1.99. Next I entered the WDCCK default IP address in my browser. That should bring up the setup web page. Just enter the user name "admin" and password "admin" and you should have access to change any settings you need.
With mine, the DCCK-W picked up a DHCP addy from my router all by itself. I looked in the router LAN users list and found the DCCK-W. Punched up that IP in FF and got the login pop-up.
 
#157 ·
matt said:
RobertE did the little micro coax cable make it into the final packaging? Just curious...
I installed my Wireless CCK a couple of days ago, and I'm using the provided thin coax cable and the passthrough port to connect to my HR24-500. Just curious, is there anything wrong with using standard coax with the passthrough port? Say I want to use the passthrough, but the WCCK is wall mounted in a central area and the receiver is in another room?

Using the Wireless CCK gave me a free port on the 4-way splitter, so I moved the SWiM power inserter to the output side of the 4-way. Previously the power inserter was between a 2-way and a 4-way splitter, using the passthrough port.
 
#158 ·
Using standard coax works fine, I can attest to it. I think the think coax was provided for cost and packaging reasons.
 
#166 ·
I called today to haggle over my Sunday Ticket price. After that was done I asket about the Wireless kit. Initially offered it to me at 34.99. I thought I read somewhere that the wireless kit was free on the initial install of your system, I mentioned that I wasnt offered this when I got my install last year. Asked if I could get it for free and he said no problem.
 
#167 ·
duder92 said:
I called today to haggle over my Sunday Ticket price. After that was done I asket about the Wireless kit. Initially offered it to me at 34.99. I thought I read somewhere that the wireless kit was free on the initial install of your system, I mentioned that I wasnt offered this when I got my install last year. Asked if I could get it for free and he said no problem.
You were not offered it last year as it was not publicly available last year.
 
#169 ·
Davenlr said:
I believe only upgraded/added leased receivers or DVRs generate a new commitment.
That is what I was told and so I ordered Whole Home DVR and ... "magically" ... my new committment date is now July 2013. :(

This point caused me to purchase a Sony voice recorder and all conversations are now taped. I walked around with it turned on for 2 hours while the tech was installing but no problem, it has over 500 hours of record time.
 
#171 ·
DirecTV set up WHDVR this week first with the Broadband DECA but the wife didn't like the 50 foot cable running from the living room DVR over to the BB DECA / Netgear router in my den (it's test honey till they bring out a wireless one). So they come back and put in the wireless Cinema connection kit and it's working fine. The only issue is that I had to destroy the security on my router to get it talking.

Someone said you could HTTP to the device and I see it under the LAN setup on my router but I can't get to it on port 80 or 8080. I can't ping the device on it's IP nor the IPs shown for my DVRs. I had DirecTV2PC working when we were using the Broadband DECA now that doesn't work. It is working to download movies and it checks out in Network setup.

Any thoughts on how I can remote into the device on my network and play with the IP configuration so I can reimplement a home network with adequate security? :confused:
 
#173 ·
InfoManWD said:
That is what I was told and so I ordered Whole Home DVR and ... "magically" ... my new committment date is now July 2013. :(

This point caused me to purchase a Sony voice recorder and all conversations are now taped. I walked around with it turned on for 2 hours while the tech was installing but no problem, it has over 500 hours of record time.
In my State, we can't do that without the permission or full disclosure to both parties that the conversation or video has audio recording with opportunity to opt out. That's why a number of police videos on TV don't have audio, even they can't record it. Varies from State to State of course.
 
#174 ·
veryoldschool said:
Was there a receiver swap involved?
Should you have had one for either SWiM compatibility or for MRV, then your commitment date DOES change.

Whole Home DVR service DOESN'T, by itself, cause a change.
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Sounds like VOS is about to school me ... I'm ready. ;-)

I started off with two HR22-100's, two major problems, a want to get both tuners in each DVR working simultaneously (I have just a single cable to my DVRs), and a wish to connect up to the Internet for these "6000 movies".

The first of my problems is that the DVR in the bedroom didn't work with my Philips TV for over a year. It was intermittently losing the channel guide and then just wouldn't work at all. After multiple troubleshooting attempts, DVR switchouts, life going on, etc. I was convinced it was an issue with the switch in the Slimline 5 or maybe wall cabling. I tried to get SWiM about three years ago and I guess it was too new ... they wouldn't put it in and I'm too damn cheap to pay $450 to fish a two-story 3500 sq ft home (figured I would just wait).

So I came out here to DBStalk, remembered my login, and read for about 5 hours (you guys are studs by the way ... thanks for all the help over the years) and then figured I would try the WHDVR and get them out to fix the other problems. I have the maintenance plan. So the tech reinstalls to Slimline 3 and does the DECA thing to my HR22s. Cool, it's working! We're going back and forth between DVRs doing the setup and then the one in the bedroom STOPS WORKING! There it is I scream!!! The same f'in problem I have been dealing with for over a year!!! So as a last-ditch effort (the tech is really ready to leave at this point) I tell him to try a new DVR and he pulls an HR24-500 off the truck and slaps it in in 10 minutes. PROBLEM SOLVED!!! (or at least I hope so, we'll have to see months down the road to be sure) The tech closes the order because they can't get the wireless Cinema kit and I figure I will call and battle it out the next day.

So from what I have read at DBStalk, all I had was a DVR issue and the tech replaced it and that shouldn't cause an upgrade. He did the switchout on his little wireless work device. Because it's a better model, it's not my fault he can't replace it with the same model.

Through all of this talking to different CSRs and tech support, I get all different kinds of input. "Mr. Prevette ... an HR24 is basically the same thing as an HR22". After using the HR24 one evening, I was amazed at how fast it was and the fact that it worked ... I didn't know whether to cry or be so pissed off at being fed a line of BS about an HR24 being the same thing. So I called in the next day and told them they are going to bring out a wireless Cinema kit so we can get the cable off my floor and if they are going to be so kind as to extend me for two years then they are going to bring out another HR24 (ya right, no model guarantees through CSRs). I told them it is all going to work and work well or we are going to tear it all out and I'll go a different direction. :mad:

Now for my second DVR problem. An HR22 is slow as snot and mine wouldn't take input from the remote ... I would have to push and hold DVR forward for three seconds and let go to get to 1, then again to 2, then again to 3. It took 5-7 seconds to pick up the channel guide ... unacceptable when I have an HR24 now that is quick as hell in response and scrolling ... these two pieces of equipment aren't in the same league. So he does a little calling and we switch out the living room HR22 with an HR24 and then do the wireless Cinema kit.

So again at this point ... I'm in the protection plan, I already had a DVR and they were just replacing my DVR for the one I had with hair-pulling performance with what they had on the truck. So if I use the same DVTspeak that all DVRs are the same then I didn't get an upgrade (technically from what I have seen it's a hell of an upgrade).

So that is where I sit ... two "broken" HR22s switched out for two HR24s, WHDVR, SWiM because I am single cable, and connected to the Internet. When I first called in, I bargained the price down from $200 + $50 install to $100 and being told my committment wouldn't change along with free DVR ($7) for a year as compensation for the loss of my bedroom DVR for the last year. Through all the advertising I see now and talking to the tech, it looks like a nobody can call into DTV and get two DVRs, a SWiM setup, install, the lower price for a year, and on top of that not have to pay for HD for life. Well, I don't begrude the discount for new users but when a newbie doesn't ever pay for HD and I will with my extended contract along with paying for the WHDVR/SWiM then that leaves me a hair burned. I will need to call back and discuss this in a little more detail armed, of course, with my voice recorder.

So, in the end I don't mind paying a premium price for premium stuff but when it doesn't work and I'm still paying that price and then you make me pay more to solve the problems even when I'm paying for the fix-it contract then I have to throw up a foul flag. :nono2:

Sorry, this has been a multiple-year beef with me and it looks like I'm at the end with a good solution ... now I just need to talk to that dang wireless box and reintegrate it on my network with solid security.

Your input (and others too) is appreciated. :)
 
#175 ·
InfoManWD said:
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Sounds like VOS is about to school me ... I'm ready. ;-)
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Your input (and others too) is appreciated. :)
The first DVR swap was for a defective receiver, which, if it was leased, wouldn't have caused the commitment change. Had you had your commitment changed, there are ways to have it removed/returned to what it had been before.

Now the second change is where things get sticky. I do understand how you might feel this was also defective, but it also sounds like the way this was handled was as an "upgrade", so this is where the commitment comes in.
This one would be a lot harder [now] to be changed to a "defective replacement".
 
#176 ·
veryoldschool said:
The first DVR swap was for a defective receiver, which, if it was leased, wouldn't have caused the commitment change. Had you had your commitment changed, there are ways to have it removed/returned to what it had been before.

Now the second change is where things get sticky. I do understand how you might feel this was also defective, but it also sounds like the way this was handled was as an "upgrade", so this is where the commitment comes in.
This one would be a lot harder [now] to be changed to a "defective replacement".
Thanks VOS, I can work with that. When I called in before the second tech visit, they told me that my committment had been extended. So, it sounds like I was told the right thing on the phone ... (no extension) ... but they coded it as an extension anyway. On the second DVR switchout, I don't see how a tech could basically make my agreement for me ... the only discussion I had with DTV was with the CSR after he did everything and they said "Mr. Prevette, do you have any questions". If it all works great, maybe I'm OK with the extension ... especially if I call back in and they treat me like a nobody and remove the price of HD in what I'm paying forever.

Thanks for your input! :)
 
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