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DBSTalk First Look: DirecTV R16 Standard Definition DVR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV SD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Jan 29, 2008.

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  1. Spicoli

    Spicoli This is only a test...

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    I have the 3 lnb dish.
     
  2. carl6

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    I can think of no reason that the SWM shouldn't work with most any dish. If it is the old original round 18" dish, then you would only connect the two inputs to the non-tone inputs of the SWM. If it is the 3-LNB Phase III dish, you would connect all four coax just like you do with the 5-LNB dish.

    Obviously, you will only have access to the satellites that your particular dish can see, so an SWM connected to a Phase III won't give you the new mpeg4 feeds, even though the SWM itself is capable of handling them.

    Carl
     
  3. bonscott87

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    SWM will work with any dish. When my 5 LNB dish died (LNB took a dump) I put up my old 3 LNB dish and didn't change a thing with my cabling and the SWM worked just fine. The SWM is basically a different kind of multiswitch and it doesn't care what kind of dish it's connected to.
     
  4. HoTat2

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    If true, though intriguing at first look, I think it would have a severe drawback since you cannot cascade SWMs (that I’m aware of anyhow) such a dish would be limited to only feeding the number of tuners indicated by the number following the letters “SWM.”

    For example, if the dish had an integrated SWM-8 in its LNB assembly, it could only be connected to a maximum of four SWM capable DVRs.
     
  5. Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

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    That is correct...

    But that is a relatively high number... and on the outer edge of the curve of the normal customer base.

    SWMLine Dish is not for every customer.
    The regular Slimline dish is still going to be available for those that need more connections.
     
  6. tony4d

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    I can't believe they left out an ethernet port!?!

    I'll never get one, rather just do hd-dvr, or hopefully the mce tuner, whenever they release that.
     
  7. ThomasM

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    That's not true! I'm actually pretty happy with my R15's-but I like to analyze software problems and do workarounds. That's what I did for a living as an IT desktop support specialist, and believe me Microsoft Windows came up with a lot more tricky obstacles than the R15!! :D

    As a result, I know how to get it to do what I want it to. If you keep a close watch on the R15, it WILL record all the shows you want it to. But for a regular DirecTV customer (like my sister for example who can't even set the clock on her old VCR), the R15 would be a reason to cancel DirecTV. She doesn't care about "R" icons or TO DO lists and such. She would just want to know where Tuesday's episode of "Days of Your Life" is and WHY it wasn't recorded because it was set up as a series link!!!

    The new laughable promo on the DirecTV web site that touts the "new" R15 features (like skip-to-tick which it never tells you how to operate) states that Series Link will record ALL the episodes of your favorite show. If indeed your R15(s) do this, you should immediately go out and buy some lottery tickets, as I have NEVER seen another poster on this system that has an R15 that has had such good luck that they can claim they have had an equal experience.

    Now, if the R16 is just a new pretty case with the same old performance issues and no new features, (except SWM which most of the DirecTV customers don't need) I see little reason to bother upgrading.

    I'm sure many others reading this "first look" thread are also looking for a true upgrade to the R15 and not just a new case/SWM support...
     
  8. Feb 1, 2008 #108 of 158
    personman

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    Per the D* terms and conditions, you have to pay for the HD and DVR fees or you are required to return the unit. The DVR is not such a big deal, but if you don't have HD, then that could be a turn off for some.

     
  9. Feb 1, 2008 #109 of 158
    Monduj1

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    Still no Dual Live Buffers? No reason to trade in my DirecTivo's then.
     
  10. Feb 1, 2008 #110 of 158
    Earl Bonovich

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    As I stated... There is still value if you want access to some of those HD only channels as well....

    Plus you could then argue that extra fee gives you access to the other featuers that the HR* units have, that the R* units don't.

    It certainly would be a turn off for some, but for others they may find the $10 value in the other things you gain.
     
  11. Feb 2, 2008 #111 of 158
    rsblaski

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    Just a couple of quick questions as I seldom (maybe once a year) even look at my old R10. We have the R10 in a bedroom where our grandkids stay when they visit. Today I was just checking to make sure it was working and found that the toll free number for guide info was no longer in existence. The only numbers available are toll numbers and we don't have long distance service.

    So much for background, now the questions:
    1. Does the R15/16 get the guide info from the sat as my hr20s do or does it still get guide info via telephone, in which case I am SOL.
    2. I am assuming but want to verify that since I only have one line into that bedroom that the 15/16 will still work with just one input.

    Thanks,
    Rick
     
  12. Feb 2, 2008 #112 of 158
    personman

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    All the D* R* H* and HR* receivers get software and guide info from the satellites. You only really need a phone connection to use pay per view ordering via remote.
     
  13. Feb 2, 2008 #113 of 158
    RAD

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    The R15/R16 don't get any info over the phone line, everything including remote booking comes over the satellite. The phone line is used for remote control PPV ordering to remote back to the D* computers your purchases. You can still order PPV's just by ordering them via the D* web site.
     
  14. Feb 2, 2008 #114 of 158
    rsblaski

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    Thanks for all the answers. I didn't know that this thread would be as active as the regular R15/16 thread, so I double posted there. Sorry about that.
     
  15. Feb 3, 2008 #115 of 158
    qwerty

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    Of course, it also provides caller ID (assuming it works). And, I believe it phones in your viewing habits unless you opt out.
     
  16. Feb 3, 2008 #116 of 158
    hombresoto

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    That's EXACTLY why there is no ethernet port on the r16, they want people to upgrade to HD, and the hd dvr especially since the cost of the hr21 is decreasing and they can add average subscriber revenue via the hd access fee.
     
  17. Feb 3, 2008 #117 of 158
    Kevin Dupuy

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    Well, because they just released a new DVR box without the capacity... and since as you said, most people only want SD right now, not HD, so they'll get the R16. If DIRECTV just released a new box, they should have been able to incorporate whatever they need for DOD into the box during development.
     
  18. Feb 6, 2008 #118 of 158
    Spicoli

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    Any word when it will be available in the stores? Best Buy, Circuit City, ETC...
     
  19. Feb 6, 2008 #119 of 158
    qwerty

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    I looked at Best Buy yesterday and didn't see it.
     
  20. Feb 6, 2008 #120 of 158
    Stuart Sweet

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    It took about 2 months for HR21s to show up at the local Costco if that's any indication
     
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