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DBSTalk First Look: HR21-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 16, 2007.

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  1. Earl Bonovich

    Earl Bonovich Lifetime Achiever

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    If you look historically... at the two DBS providers...
    They really became true "players" when they started to offer the locals....
    Why? Because people only wanted to deal with ONE source, not multiple.

    Then the laws/regulations for "Must Carry" came around.......


    Call DirecTV... you can remove your Locals from your package.
     
  2. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    Thanks for the info!

    The 11-1 OTA I get now, I tend to record several (over 4) hours per week. So my experience is a little different.
     
  3. rawilson

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    So in March, my local CBS affiliate (WRAL in Raleigh, NC) puts all the NCAA tournament games on its alternate channels (5-1, 5-2, 5-3, 5-4). I do not get all of those in my locals package from D*...only the 5-1 content. While I can receive all the channels OTA using an antenna, I'd very much miss the DVR functionality.

    That said, I'd still trade built-in OTA for DLB any day.

    If by some miracle, D* has included DLB in the HR21, what are the chances they'd let me "trade up" from my HR20?
     
  4. say-what

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    No DLB and if it were to become available, it would most likely be added to all of their HD DVR's. As for a "trade up," sure, you can always trade up if you're willing to pay the required costs. Not going to get one for free though. ;)
     
  5. Jeremy W

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    Hey, we're not supposed to talk about the software! :lol:
     
  6. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    What is the source of your facts of this statement? This has been discussed many times here. I have both OTA and HD via the SAT, you cannot see a difference.
     
  7. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    So you are calling the HD via the satillite inferior, but you do not even have it yet so do not really know. Excuse me, but you do not have a clue what you are talking about.

    How is that for some high heat :hurah:
     
  8. Jaysv

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    For those of us without HD LiL, we need the OTA tuners to receive our local Hd programing. Currently it seems that we will be able to do so via the HR20 for some time, however I don't think it's unjustified for us to raise some concern of the longterm future availability of a Directv HD DVR with OTA tuners. If we work on the assumption that Directv knows how many HR20s are utilizing the OTA connection, and the fact that this information was likely used to decided to spend the development dollars on a unit without OTA capabilities, meaning that it's not likely that a large percentage are using it, then, we may not a large enough percentage to warrant the continued production of the HR20 model. If so, at some point we may lose current functionality, less functionality for the same price doesn't sound like a deal to me.
     
  9. Jeremy W

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    Wow, it's a good thing you brought this up. Nobody has raised this concern yet in the thread.
     
  10. LameLefty

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    Careful, Jeremy - you're getting testy. :lol:
     
  11. Jaysv

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    Well you know the squeaky wheel theory, and I believe I provided adequate justification for our concern.
     
  12. stogie5150

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    ...and STILL no DLB. :nono:

    ...and no explanation WHY. :nono:

    Dish Network is looking better and better by the day.

    Oh, BTW, very nice writeup. Very well done. :)
     
  13. Jeremy W

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    What are you waiting for? With all of those new HD channels they just launched, they can't be beat!

    Oh, wait...
     
  14. LameLefty

    LameLefty I used to be a rocket scientist

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    Just remember, every internet forum contains a disproportionate number of people who need to air complaints or grievances. I'm sure Directv understands this very well.

    That said, my neighborhood (not the most exclusive in town by any means but definitely nicer than most) is filled with fairly nice homes ranging from 1,800 - 3,000 square feet, and good number of dishes - and not a single OTA antenna. Comcast understands this part too, as does Directv.
     
  15. hdtvfan0001

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    Dual Buffers is a feature independent of a specific device. Once D*TV decides to offer it, it will be offered on all HD DVR's.
     
  16. Earl Bonovich

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    And this is surprising to anyone?

    Sorry a lot of you were under the impression that it was a hardware limitation that there was no DLB
     
  17. tvjay

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    Saw this at the new Best Buy the other day......looks nice, but NO OTA means NO GO for me. I am a television engineer for a local station....the only people I trust in severe weather are the local people to keep my TV coming. Plus OTA means I can watch other TV markets than my own (I have a 50 foot tower out back) therefore I can watch Detroit sometimes.
     
  18. NOLAmitch

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    Thanks for the welcome.

    The new receiver ended up being an HR20-100 refurb. Looks brand new, and as I understand the -100 version runs cooler, and has an extra Ethernet switch port, I'm quite happy to have the refurbished unit.

    Speaking of extra Ethernet switch ports -- I have not read completely through the manual yet, but I expect to complete that this evening -- when connecting the HR20 to the home Ethernet segment, can I then disconnect the phone line. Said another way, does Internet access replace dial-up access when connected?

    Regards,
    Mitch
     
  19. Jaysv

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    My neighborhood as well, even my house, the antenna is in the attic. Which is exactly the point, it's obvious that the number of OTA users isn't large enough to justify continuing to put OTA tuners in every unit, so the remaining question is, are we large enough to warrant putting them in any units. Today perhaps, but as more markets get their HD LiL, probably not.
     
  20. hdtvfan0001

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    You are mixing together the purposes of Ethernet and phone line ports...they are 2 totally different things.

    The Ethernet ports are for network (wireless or wired) connections (only), and the regular phone jack connection is for the DVR to occasionally contact D*TV if and when you have PPV orders and other very limited service purposes.
     
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