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DBSTalk First Look: HR21-700

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Earl Bonovich, Oct 16, 2007.

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  1. TheRatPatrol

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    Ok that answers my question then. And as long as they continue to make the HR20, I'll be happy. I want to get another one, but not until next year. :)

    Thank you
     
  2. say-what

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    It's a newer model with a slightly different design that is functionally equivalent to the HR20 less the OTA. If that makes it an upgrade, then it's an upgrade, but the boxes work the same.
     
  3. azarby

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    I agree with you on the HR20s abilities. We have two HR20s along with the HR21 and the HR20s have only missed 1 recording in about 8 months and that may have been a user error. These units are way better than the previous generation TIVO tha now sits unused in a guest room.

    Bob
     
  4. bsnelson

    bsnelson I can has HR2x?

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    I know I'm continuing the off-topic-ness, but... am I the only one that thinks the way the eSATA functionality works is exactly RIGHT from a usability standpoint? One could build a library of eSATA drives with specific programming on them and attach them at will to watch that programming. Expensive, yes, but imagine having a drive with full seasons of your favorite shows that you could playback with full DVR functionality by just plugging it in.

    On topic: Thanks for the review, guys. I won't be getting one of these units due to a key difference between it and the HR20 (hint: it's spelled Oh-Tee-Ay :) ), but it looks like a good box for those that can use it.

    Brad
     
  5. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Neither the HR20 nor the HR21 have MPEG4 encoders, but I'm sure you already knew that. I'm just clarifying. What the HR20/HR21 does do is decode the MPEG4 stream, so it has MPEG4 decoders.
     
  6. carl6

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    I started to write a really long posting that basically didn't say anything that hasn't already been said. So I erased it all and am only going to say that I think the HR21 is a good business move by DirecTV, and for those who have OTA requirements, the HR20 remains the right answer.

    I am not one of those who has received an HR21-700.

    Carl
     
  7. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    But you do have the ability to record OTA...
     
  8. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    Holy grail??? I never said that did I? But I did point out you were
    being hypocritical.

    Correct someones imagination. Awesome that you are keeping track
    of this stuff. Please make a full review of Time Warner history.

    Frankly that sounds like a personal problem :D

    Hey you too. Any time...
     
  9. Jeremy W

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    The thing is, it doesn't work quite like that. You can't "just plug it in," you have to plug it in and reboot the receiver. You also have to keep in mind that all of your Series Links travel with the drive, so building a library like that would involve a tremendous amount of juggling. It's really not viable.
     
  10. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    OK I am going to screw myself. Because I have no idea why you would think the HR20 cannot record 100% reliability. I have not had a problem in many many months. So what are you referring to?
     
  11. gcisko

    gcisko I am Iron Man!

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    Nope not at all. It is what it is. And even if some people think it is stupid. I am glad for it's simplicity. Just get an eSTAT drive and plug it in??? How simple can you get? Is it ideal? Perhaps not. But far better than no other option and just living with the 300GB drive. Sometimes I wonder if people really thing about this stuff. Perhaps they simply do not understand.
     
  12. Halo

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    Not surprising. Had they used the 7400 cpu instead the speed increase (more than double) would have been noticeable. The 7400 would also allow dual stream mpeg4 decoding which would make PIP possible (if enabled in software). Maybe we'll see the 7400 in the HR20P if it ever comes out.
    The 7401 is probably a little faster than the 7038/7411 combo (used in the HR20) but the main reason it was chosen is cost. Integrating the 7411 into the main cpu saves a little board size and complexity and probably saves a couple watts as well.
     
  13. hdtvfan0001

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    Of course the maturity of the firmware is still very new, and has not yet advanced to the point of taking advantage of the full potential power of the better CPU and other chipset elements yet. In some cases they have, such as improved MPEG4 handling. The same thing happened with earlier HR20 firmware, which improved over time in many ways as far as performance/speed.

    How the GUI and firmware uses the CPU's capabilities are controlled within the firmware - kinda like how a racecar can drive fast is based on the driver, not just the engine.
     
  14. Popcorn

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    What ever happened to the Media Center that would have allowed High Def streaming to other TV's in the house?
     
  15. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

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    awww man i want one, I want to pull the guts out and put the inerds from my R15 into that case! (I had to paint my R15 black to match my stereo and TV)
     
  16. ajayrav

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    I'm assuming that is an 'owned' R15 and not one that is leased. My HR20-700 is a leased receiver and I'm itching to paint it black, but think they may charge me if I ever decide to quit or upgrade later.
     
  17. Jeremy W

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    Why in the world would you do that? The HR21 is a better DVR than the R15 in every way possible.
     
  18. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

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    No RF remote and no "RF" coax out, i use it to feed my TV in the kitchen and Bathroom in the basement, so on game day i don't miss a thing!!!!!!!
     
  19. Jeremy W

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    The HR21 (as well as both HR20s) does have an RF remote, and you can pick up a cheap RF modulator at Radio Shack to get a coax output.
     
  20. dodge boy

    dodge boy R.I.P. Chris Henry

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    I missed that the RF antenna was internal.....
    Bring on The HD... Whay can't I "test" one of these new things???? But all my local HDs are OTA so gimme an HR20 in this case....

    And to ajayrav yeah I own mine I thought D used to make a black one..... search ebay
     
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