DBSTalk First Look: Multi-Room Viewing Opt-in Beta

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 17, 2010.

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  1. RAD

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    Dripping...
    OK, NP, just spent too many years in networking. ;)
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    Thanks, so there is what around 100 mega bits of buffer that this has/needs and when this isn't enough it ends up like my simplistic view? :)
     
  3. RAD

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    If the buffer isn't able to keep enough data in it to provide an uninterrupted stream you're going to get pauses in the playback. When that happens pause the client for awhile and when you start again playback will be fine until the buffer gets drained again and then back to the pausing. So from what I've seen if you're running on that fine line where the client is basically displaying the data as soon as it gets it if you get a missing/corrupted packet there will be a pause while it's retransmitted since TCP is used, if it was UDP then yep, no retransmission unless the client playback software asked for it.
     
  4. veryoldschool

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    ^ I hope this has helped those asking/wondering about their networks. :)
     
  5. mikeny

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    There's a lot of good reading here.

    It seems like the consensus is that in general, a wired network should work similarly to DECA but it may save some the inconvenience of needing to run CAT5 to a new location. That is an awesome option for many people who would rather go that route. Wireless and powerline are much more unpredicable.

    I still believe the fair resolution here is to charge a fee for a DECA install or upgrade. Waive monthly fees. Provide a level of tech support to all. Hey, they do sell the wireless bridges too and can even(at least should be able) to troubleshoot them.

    If anything, charge everyone a one-time activation fee. Don't charge redundant monthly fees. After raising rates, including the DVR fee, the timing is also poor for this speculaton. (or should I say announcement) I hope they reconsider.
     
  6. dbmaven

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    If you were referring to me - that happens to be my business as well - and I did not trivialize it by any stretch of the imagination. For that matter, my business is in a highly regulated environment - where the costs are significantly HIGHER than what DirecTV deals with.

    If I was trying to make a point - it's the fact that they save themselves a ton of money, both in the actual integration and system test process, as well as in support, by virtue of the legion of free "alpha" testers they have.
     
  7. hdtvfan0001

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    That pretty much says it all, in terms of the go-forward strategy I suspect.

    They will install and support DECA...otherwise....you're on your own for support.

    The fee will be the fee regardless (and likely a small one).

    Since a minority of customers have (or will have) networked configurations, this will impact only those folks (the fee).

    I hate to pay any MRV fee like the next guy, and would like to see it free...but each person will simply have to judge if its worth whatever the fee is....and then get it or not get it.
     
  8. GrumpyBear

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    Question for those that have this up and working.
    Does the preformance of the DVR that has the recording slow down, while somebody is watching a recorded show off of that DVR on a different DVR. What I mean does Channel surfing, channel Changing, TrickPlay slow down the Host DVR while somebody is connected to it, and watching a recording?
     
  9. Doug Brott

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    I can't say that I've noticed this myself.
     
  10. GrumpyBear

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    I wasn't saying there was, I was asking if there was. Nice to hear, that overall speed is the same. I was just wondering, with a remote DVR watching a recording, and pausing, fastforwarding, and rewinding of live TV, "if" there was a performance difference.
     
  11. kmattoo

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    my MRV has been working pretty well (besides the typical pauses/sound issues) thus far. I have 2 DVRs: one in the family room and one in the office.

    however, after my wife watched an episode on MRV downstairs (while live tv is being watched on the office tv), she started to watch another show and found that it would not play.

    The episode had the red symbol (stop?) next to the episode title and when you tried to play the program the following popup came up: The program can't be played because too many programs are being watched from playlist: OFFICE.

    On the Office DVR, the only thing being watched is live tv. If I turn off the Office DVR, the family room DVR continues to get the same message.

    Any thoughts?

    Both are HR21/200 both w/ the current software.
     
  12. DogLover

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    Assuming no one was using DirecTV2PC to view a program from the office, it sounds like a bug. It seems like the family room DVR didn't properly communicate with the office DVR that it had finished watching the first show. Since the DVR's support only 1 MRV stream at a time, it wouldn't let your wife start what it thought was a second stream.

    A reboot of the office DVR would probably fix the issue if it continues.

    Please add this to the issues thread, so that DirecTV will know of it.
     
  13. Richierich

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    You just need to Reboot the Office DVR. Sometimes the MRV doesn't get stopped completely as it thinks it is Paused and the Stream is still present so a Reboot will clear up that situation.
     
  14. Lee L

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    SO, will regular techs install the DECA setup or will they have seperate DECA techs that come out? I imagine a new install it would not be much more work to do it, but whatabout retrofits once they get this thing rolling for real?
     
  15. Doug Brott

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    I'm pretty sure that regular techs can be trained to do this fairly quickly. DECA installations are literally the easiest networking I've ever had to install.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    Agree.

    Even a caveman could do a DECA install. :D
     
  17. davidmoss59

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    I know this is going to sounds stupid, but i've read every entry on the forum and can't find the answer... so lets bottom line this...

    Am I going to be required to use DECA and a SLM for MRV to work, or will it still work with my home network. I've been on the cutting edge software for months and have had really no issues using my home network.

    I have 4 HR20s networked together along with another 3 receivers. A SLM won't work with that many I understand.

    So, if someone can just bottom line this answer for me I would appreciate it.
     
  18. davidmoss59

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    I guess I mean SWM, not SLM. Same question though. :D
     
  19. dpeters11

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    It'll work, but not supported by DirecTV. If you have problems that you can't figure out, you'll have to either deal with us or go DECA.
     
  20. JustSo

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    On the Directv.com/multiroom page, it says:
    "Please do not purchase any additional receivers to participate in this beta trial. If your existing receivers are not currently networked please do not network them to participate in the beta testing phase. Once the service launches nationally there will be a special offer available to take advantage of the service. "

    I'm in a situation where I have an HR20 and an H20, meaning I can't participate in this beta. The website says not to purchase any additional receivers and instead to wait for a special offer to take advantage of the service. Does anyone have any idea how long this beta will last? I would really love to have MRV but the indefinite waiting period is a bit of a downer.
     
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