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DBSTalk Quick Look: Nomad Spring 2013 Software

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Jan 29, 2013.

  1. Jan 30, 2013 #81 of 278
    hdtvfan0001

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    ...at least that's what the manufacturer told us...the files (and their clients) are device-specific.
     
  2. Jan 30, 2013 #82 of 278
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    As far as encryption, yes. You can't copy a file from one PC client to another PC client in the house and play it. It must be copied from the Nomad device to the client. That prevents unauthorized viewing.
     
  3. Jan 30, 2013 #83 of 278
    hdtvfan0001

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    An iPad file won't play on a laptop either. That's why the download step has to be repeated...it must be aligned with the device's client version and corresponding operating system. The manufacturer told us this in person.
     
  4. Jan 30, 2013 #84 of 278
    Steve

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    When a client requests a transcode, it doesn't matter which platform initiated it. The Nomad device transcodes every request to the same resolution, size and bit rate, but encrypts everything to the client (or the account) requesting the download, to prevent unauthorized viewing.
     
  5. Jan 30, 2013 #85 of 278
    dennisj00

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    I would bet it's the same file already encrypted and the download to a client is just that, no matter if it's PC, Mac, IOS or in the future an android device.
     
  6. Jan 30, 2013 #86 of 278
    Steve

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    Maybe they've changed it to account based encryption now, but I'm pretty sure I couldn't move files from my desktop PC client to my laptop client before. I had to fetch them from "ready to download", in each case. I'll have to try it later tonite.
     
  7. Jan 30, 2013 #87 of 278
    hdtvfan0001

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    All that is correct.

    However the missing information is that each platform has different screen sizes, as well as other platform anomolies. Showing nomad content on an iPhone and a Mac, for example, reflect entirely different display requirements (at the same resolution). How something like closed captioning is handled also varies on the displays. For those reasons, a unique file format needs to be created within the download step (which must also address unauthorized viewing).

    If that were not the case, we would have seen an Android version a long time ago, simply creating a client that uses the exact same file.
     
  8. Jan 30, 2013 #88 of 278
    Steve

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    Those anomalies are dealt with by the native client players. Nomad transcodes all the files to the same SD resolution (I'm guessing 720x480), and the native phone or tablet player re-samples the data during playback to its native screen resolution.

    It's just like playing a standard 720x480 DVD back on my 1080p display here at home, or watching an SD channel from my HR2x. No matter what resolution is input, the display upsamples everything to it's native 1080p.
     
  9. Jan 30, 2013 #89 of 278
    hdtvfan0001

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    Not exactly <in an Hertz commercial voice>

    There more to it than just that.

    But it's time to move on. so I'll let it rest.
     
  10. Jan 30, 2013 #90 of 278
    islesfan

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    Well, I got home and started the Nomad app on my laptop, and it started up no problem, and my Nets game was right there for me. It didn't want to update though. I took it outside, beyond my WiFi range, and it won't start. Tells me to call customer service. I guess Nomad on the laptop will only work while at home now. Sucks.:mad:

    I do have an iPad now, though, so I'll try it on there. Hopefully, it will let me watch my downloaded programs without an Internet connection.
     
  11. Jan 30, 2013 #91 of 278
    NR4P

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    I am really looking forward to using this on the iPad on my next trip, coming soon. The 30 sec skip with stacking will save me alot of trouble skipping thru commercials on the plan.

    Thanks Directv
     
  12. Jan 31, 2013 #92 of 278
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    The app on my iPhone and iPad see that I have two DVRs but they only bring up the playlist on one.
     
  13. Jan 31, 2013 #93 of 278
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    Try doing a reset of the Nomad.

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  14. Jan 31, 2013 #94 of 278
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    Have you tried Disabling WiFi by Clicking on your WiFi Button on your Laptop. I believe if it is on it thinks you want to use Nomad with a WiFi Connection and senses a problem.

    You should have a WiFi Button where you Toggle it to turn WiFi On or Off. Toggle it to Off just the same as you would if you were on an airplane.
     
  15. Jan 31, 2013 #95 of 278
    The Merg

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    That's a good thought and while that may be the solution, it should not work that way. The app should just see that it is not connected to the Internet and immediately revert to playback mode only.

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  16. Jan 31, 2013 #96 of 278
    Richierich

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    Also, telling him that so he doesn't have to take the Laptop out of Range but he just has to Toggle the WiFi Button to Off and he then can use it in his home well within the Range of his Router without having to go outside Out of Range.

    I have had this problem before myself and that is what I had to do to correct the situation.
     
  17. Jan 31, 2013 #97 of 278
    Steve

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    or that there is no Nomad device on the network the mobile device is currently connected to
     
  18. Jan 31, 2013 #98 of 278
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    I did the reset then after a few minutes the playlist showed up. I then started watching a show. I tried to forward through the a show few minutes and an error message popped up. Something about the DVR being busy. After that I was unable to continue playing the show. I will try again tonight and get the exact wording of the error message.
     
  19. Jan 31, 2013 #99 of 278
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    I've seen that too. I'm still not sure yet if it really means someone else is accessing that DVR, or if it's a networking hiccup that's being reported with the wrong error message.
     
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    I've seen that one too . . . it seems to be some timing or network hiccup between the HR and nomad particularly when trying to trickplay. It will report the HDDVR is busy for a few minutes then clear and play again - often without any problem.

    I've had it happen on both a completed recording and a near 'real-time' streaming of a current recording (which you can't trickplay on).
     

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