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DBSTalk's First Look at the ViP722 DVR™

Discussion in 'ViP612/622/722/722K DVR Support Forum' started by Rob Glasser, Aug 14, 2007.

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  1. Sep 18, 2007 #61 of 107
    lbeck

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    I have the channels locked out and I thought I had the "Hide Locked Channels" option invoked. I thought they still came up in the "All Channels/All sub" guides but maybe I'm wrong. You guys are experts. I'll try again (I'm at work now but will try when I get home).

    On the recording from the receiver option, you can do it directly from the the receiver outputs into e.g., a DVD recorder. I do it all the time.

    Thanks for your input.
     
  2. Sep 18, 2007 #62 of 107
    Richard King

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    I have the component outputs of my receiver running to the component inputs of a tuner card in my computer. If I want to record something I simply pull up the tuner in the computer and run the program from my receiver HD. I then can edit the program in the computer. Of course this is done real time, so it is time consuming and I don't get a High Def finished product.
     
  3. Sep 18, 2007 #63 of 107
    lbeck

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    My thanks to Norm and Rob. You are entirely correct. I had locked the channels and selected "hide locked," but hadn't locked my receiver. Not being familiar with that setting, I was afraid that it locked out the remotes or something. As far as I can tell, all that it does is what I wanted - to have the locked channels not show.
     
  4. Sep 18, 2007 #64 of 107
    lbeck

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    It doesn't surprise me that you can do that. With additional software you may be able to save the program as an MPEG or AVI file and do the edits at your convenience rathar than on-the-fly as you have described.

    In addition to the "save to DVD-RAM" routine that I described, I also can do as you have described and capture directly from the output (monitor out) of my TV into my AV/DV card. That way I can pull anything from the TV into my computer and edit later. It just ties up the main TV since of course if anyone changes channels or pops up a menu, that also is recorded. There are a number of ways to record from Dish to Computer. I was only pointing out that the encryption is not an impediment to recording from the Dish receiver. I don't have the ability to record HD on anything that I own (except the 622) so that may well be something that cannot be done (yet).

    Since I already have a couple of external HDDs I'll probably pay the $40 to enable recording from the USB port and play it back through the 622. The main advantage here is to store more. But I will have to say that this can become a compulsive disorder. I only watch about 10% of what I eventually record and burn to DVD ;)
     
  5. Sep 20, 2007 #65 of 107
    Boson

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    A repost which I thank you guys in advance for answering....I just wanted to highlight (in bold) what I got out of a couple Dish reps....

    Has anyone atempted to connect their EHD to a second box? I am replacing my 622 with a 722 and several DISH folks stated that reconnecting to a completly different box within the same household will work - the new box will see and function with the archived recordings made form the 'old' box. They did say that you can only connect the EHD up to 3 times before it will require (request) a reformat.
    Has anyone successfully made a second connection? My 722 comes today and I have 550 Gb of archived shows I don't want to lose!
     
  6. Oct 14, 2007 #66 of 107
    rphillips187

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    Hi, I'm a new member and I am having Dish Network installed this Tuesday (very excited; a great upgrade from my current ugly and unintuitivie Scientific Atlanta receiver WOW provided me).

    Just a quick trick for those not currently using Dish Network: mention the VIP722 while on the phone with the sales agent. They are still trying to sell the VIP622 but they'll offer a free upgrade if you ask for it. Although I agree with most that the upgrade from the VIP622 to the VIP722 is not worth paying for, but you might as well take the free upgrade if it's available to you.

    Great community here. I'll be visiting often, especially once I get my service installed.

    -Rob
     
  7. Oct 25, 2007 #67 of 107
    weaselfest

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    care to share the make and model of that video card?
     
  8. Oct 28, 2007 #68 of 107
    Tweakophyte

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    Hi-

    Please remind me again... what is VC-1 and why would I want it?

    Thanks,
     
  9. Oct 28, 2007 #69 of 107
    Ron Barry

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    My understanding VC-1 is what is used for HD encoding/decoding on Blue-ray and HD-DVDs. Having it will give the ability to provided VC-1 encoded media to the 722 and have it decode it. Right now there is none available through Dish Channels.

    THis is one of the future things that my or may not occur.
     
  10. Oct 29, 2007 #70 of 107
    tnsprin

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    VC1 is one of 3 methods that can be used to encode video on Blu-ray and HD-DVD. The others are mpeg2 and mpeg4(avc). In fact the chip in the 722 is the same broadcom chip used in some of these players.
     
  11. Oct 29, 2007 #71 of 107
    Mike D-CO5

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    I wonder if the vc1 chip ,that is the same chip as blu-ray and hd dvd, means that the 722 can output in 1080p someday, by software update?
     
  12. Oct 29, 2007 #72 of 107
    DustoMan

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    I suppose it's possible. Freaking awesome if this ever comes to fruition.
     
  13. Oct 29, 2007 #73 of 107
    lujan

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    There is nothing being broadcast in 1080p so even if the 722 could do 1080p, there would not be anything to watch. It's up to the TV studios, networks, broadcasters or stations to switch over to 1080p.

    Dish can only display whats being sent to them.
     
  14. Oct 30, 2007 #74 of 107
    Mike D-CO5

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    I do remember a conversation I had with a dish rep a couple of years ago when she called to ask me if I had any questions about HD. SHe said that DISH wanted to be the first provider to broadcast in 1080p. So Even if no one is doing it yet , doesn't mean that DISH couldn't offer upconverted to 1080 p version of a channel at the uplink and broadcast it back to our receivers. Look at all the upconverted "hd" channels we have now that are being upconverted at the channel itself right now on both DISH and DIRECTV. OF course this was when Charlie had first bough VOOM & their satellite at 61.5. Since then DISH is having a bandwith crunch till next year.
     
  15. Nov 5, 2007 #75 of 107
    Crunch

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    Any rumors when Dish might provide a new HD receiver that has four tuners (2-HD, 2-SD)? I hate when I record in HD and cannot watch another live program also in HD!
     
  16. Nov 5, 2007 #76 of 107
    ChuckA

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    You can do that. You just have to run in Single mode or use the TV2 tuner to do the recording. Currently all tuners can record in HD. I would not want them to tie tuners to either HD or SD. Actually I would rather have a second OTA tuner rather than a third sat tuner. But of course adding an additional sat tuner AND an additional OTA tuner would be fine with me. I suspect at this point we are getting to the point of just needing two receivers. A single unit can do just so much before it is out of horsepower.
     
  17. Nov 6, 2007 #77 of 107
    Mike D-CO5

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    That definately would be a killer application if so. But I have read elsewhere that this was to much for the receiver to do at a time resulting in problems when they tested it. So for now no go. So you will have to live with 3 programs recorded at a time instead of 4. STill better than Directv though with only 2 programs at a time.
     
  18. Nov 6, 2007 #78 of 107
    Ron Barry

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    You can do this today with the exception of recording one OTA and watching another OTA at the same time. But you can for sure record two HD channels at the same time and if you have OTA connected you can record 3 HD channels at the same time. Tuners are not tied to HD/SD they do both. The limitation here is OTA but personally I prefer the ability to record three HD streams over having 2 OTA tuners. Yes it would be great to have 2 OTA and 2 Sat tuners, but for most of my needs this model works nicely. I am sure mileage will vary with each user.
     
  19. Nov 7, 2007 #79 of 107
    Sigifrith

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    Can someone tell me what version of HDMI is used on the 722?
     
  20. Nov 7, 2007 #80 of 107
    lujan

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    I don't believe that E* is HDMI compliant in any version. That's why they don't call it HDMI. They call it HD TV.
     
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