DEAL REACHED: Directv Customers may lose the Sinclair Stations Mar 1

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by LMckin, Feb 18, 2013.

  1. Feb 18, 2013 #21 of 214

    n3vino Godfather

    Oct 2, 2011
    I knew there was going to be trouble when Sincliar purchased the local NBC station. Here in San Antonio, they own NBC, Fox, and CW affiliates. It Looks like they got us by the yang yang. None of my sets have an ACS tuner, and that includes my HD TV. I'm not sure if I could even get them over the air since, I have houses and trees in the line of site from my house. Trees everywhere.

    I watch some reruns that I can do without on CW. But I will miss Peoples Court on Fox and Judge Judy on WOAI. That's about it from those channels. I care mostly about CBS since they carry most of the programs I like.
  2. Feb 18, 2013 #22 of 214

    hasan Well-Known Member

    Sep 22, 2006
    Ogden, IA
    Looks like it's Fox local channel 17 here in central Iowa. I saw the notice while watching the opening of Bones.

    Funny thing, I then hit 17-1 on my remote (HR20-700) and I got a stupid "Alert" Channel with D*'s answer to Bones. I then went to the guide and saw they now have 2 17-1 channels: the first one is the ALERT and the second one is the "real" OTA channel.

    Being I have three D* OTA boxes (one HR20-700 and two AM21s) that I can record from, I don't care whether anything is worked out with Sinclair or not.

    My first reaction when seeing the message on 17 was: "great, another peeing contest between D* and a provider"...I'm sure this kind of stuff will continue, ad nauseum.

    On a side note:

    The local phone company dug a trench just outside our front yard and laid an optical cable a few months ago. I'll be interested to see what they are going to offer. I'm told they will have a very thick pipe and will provide a variant of "cable" and even higher speed internet access. All the receivers are ethernet based, no coax at all, DVR and MRV. I have no idea when it will be available or what it will cost. I will, however be keeping an eye on it.

    Having been with D* since 1994 or 1995, I'm starting to think that putting that money into the local community might be a better way to go, if the service and equipment is any good at all and the cost is comparable or better.

    The one thing that this has made very clear to me is that we aren't doing anything that might involve a contract with D* any more. It's gotten too expensive, the equipment is up and down in terms of performance, and I'm not betting a two year contract that it's really going to get any better.
  3. Feb 18, 2013 #23 of 214

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    I've just got to figure when to go ahead and pull the trigger on an am21 and antenna.
  4. Feb 18, 2013 #24 of 214

    linuspbmo AllStar

    Oct 2, 2009
    I will be losing Fox and My TV out of Cape Girardeau. My wife is going to have a big problem with this and I can't even pick these channels OTA since we live too far from the tower. Looks like we are stuck if they can't work things out. I wonder if they will offer a substitute if it drags on?
  5. Feb 18, 2013 #25 of 214

    dpeters11 Hall Of Fame

    May 30, 2007
    Time Warner did that here during a dispute. The replacement sued them.
  6. Feb 18, 2013 #26 of 214

    hdfan1 AllStar

    Oct 16, 2008
    Sounds like it may time to look at an AM21. Saw the message Sinclair put on the local Fox station and it is not worded in a way that gives much hope. If it was another station owner I would not be too worried but Sinclair is notorious for these disputes. I fully expect the stations to go off March 1st
  7. Feb 18, 2013 #27 of 214

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    I would lose three shows. Simpsons, Raising Hope and Arrow.
  8. Feb 18, 2013 #28 of 214
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    Our local CBS is on the list. That's the sad news. The really crappy news is how sinclair is whining about paying small fees to use the airwaves and saying "it isn't free." Have they seen how much the airwaves really go for!? AT&T spends billions just for the license, then they pay fees. Silly Sinclair. I see through their crap.

    Does Sinclair deserve "some" money to be carried? Maybe. On the other hand, we gave them the airwaves and they really want as much coverage as they can get. Seems like more coverage is better and fees reduce coverage.

  9. Feb 18, 2013 #29 of 214

    jojo11 New Member

    Jan 12, 2013
    My first ever post...

    Sinclair just bought the FOX/MyTV stations here in Wichita from Newport. Just found out about it on the FOX Kansas' Facebook page......
  10. Feb 18, 2013 #30 of 214

    RAD Well-Known Member

    Aug 5, 2002
    Kind of glad I have a AM21 on my HR34 so all my clients will be able to still get KEYE via OTA.
  11. Feb 18, 2013 #31 of 214
    Tom Robertson

    Tom Robertson Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

    Nov 15, 2005
    :welcome_s to the forums!

    Yeah, it was the local station's facebook page that warned me too.

  12. Feb 19, 2013 #32 of 214

    Carolina AllStar

    Jan 19, 2012
    I can easily get along without NBC. So I won't be calling Directv about this like Sinclair wants me to! If Sinclair can do without Directv customers, I can do without Sinclair.
  13. Feb 19, 2013 #33 of 214

    armophob Difficulty Concen........

    Nov 13, 2006
    Fort Pierce, FL
    Our CBS is showing the banners as well.
    These things are like PBS pledge drives. Except for greed's sake.
    I love the way they ruin everyone's viewing pleasure by warning one provider's customers that they may lose their quality service.
  14. Feb 19, 2013 #34 of 214

    cfkane AllStar

    Mar 14, 2010
    I will lose CBS. I think that D* should give us the National feed until this s resolved, but I bet there is some kind of legal issue that would prevent that.
  15. Feb 19, 2013 #35 of 214

    HoTat2 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 16, 2005
    There is;

    Local stations have outdated exclusivity broadcast rights to their markets which the stations or their ownership groups regularly exploit in these disputes to exert pressure on the MSOs like DIRECTV here to deal with them.

    As unfair and misused are these regulations by station groups like Sinclair may be.
  16. Feb 19, 2013 #36 of 214

    Bradman Mentor

    Aug 8, 2011
    Would lose the Fox station here...which can be easily picked up with cheap rabbit ear antennas. Would only be a PITA if for some reason I wanted to record Fox programming. Which I don't.
  17. Feb 19, 2013 #37 of 214

    Xsabresx Icon

    Oct 8, 2007
    Interestingly I dont have a line item in the guide for NBC, but I have one for FOX. Our NBC station was bought by Sinclair and everything was finalized this past December.

    As a side note it is really weird seeing an NBC station saying on its local news "see our sister station" and they cut away to Fox to advertise the news there.
  18. Feb 19, 2013 #38 of 214

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    Fortunately, despite what the station owners say before the existing contract expires, these disputes on DirecTV are usually resolved quickly. This deal does not affect me, but back in December we went through this with our local CBS and FOX stations that are owned by Capitol Broadcasting. They literally reached a deal at the 11th hour with no interruption of service. The contract expired at midnight on Dec 31, and the new agreement was anounced at 11:27 PM.

    Other than Versus (now NBC Sports Network), which was dark for 195 days,, and the Viacom channels, which were dark for 10 days, I cannot think of a channel on DirecTV that went dark for more than a week. Most disputes are resolved without the channels ever going dark, but do not expext an agreement to be announced before the last minute.
  19. Feb 19, 2013 #39 of 214

    garn9173 Icon

    Apr 4, 2005
    Ankeny, IA...
    $inclair is the worst when it comes to these disputes. They and the local cable provider go through this every couple of years as $inclair owns the local FOX affiliate.
  20. Feb 19, 2013 #40 of 214

    jsk Icon

    Dec 27, 2006
    Fallston, MD
    Here is a list of stations to be affected.

    Dish drops the DVR guide data when they pull stations. When DirecTV pulls stations, do you still get guide data for the OTA?

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