Deer, what to do about them?

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  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator

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    If a cull is needed in populated areas the bow hunters are usually the beneficiaries. The projectiles do not go as far and the noise is less.


    I had a couple of close calls with deer a few decades ago so I bought some deer whistles. They sat in the glovebox of that car for the next few years and I have never hit a deer. They must work. :)
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    There's some debate over them. Many put them in the snake-oil category. I put them on one car but not the other. I can't say as I notice any difference in the animal's reactions as I approach.
     
  3. PCampbell

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    Michigan DOT did a study on them, they don't work. I found out the same thing.
    Yes deer hunting is big business here in Michigan.
     
  4. inkahauts

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    We need less vegetarians?

    Seriously though in some areas in some states they now make sure and fence off roads as best they can and then build big bridges every so often and funnel the animals to the bridges. The bridges are covered with landscape so it's called a natural bridge And the animals learn and use that to pass over the highways.
     
  5. yosoyellobo

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    With apology to Geico It's what humans do.
     
  6. Drucifer

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    Deer are fine. The problem - too many people. As we build homes and roads in all their habitats.

    Anyway in ten more years, the majority of vehicles on the road will be smarter then their drivers and will be able to avoid most collisions.
     
  7. James Long

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    The Indiana Toll Road experimented with roadside warning systems on a section of the road where there were a lot of deer strikes. Detectors were mounted along the side of the road to detect animals entering the roadway. When detected lights on a sign turn on to alert drivers that there was an intrusion within the next half mile.

    "Natural bridges" have not been used in my area although culverts under the road have been provided for smaller animals. The "Jersey Barrier" in the center of the highway has proven fatal for smaller animals as they can only cross half way and then get confused. There is a section of I-94 in Michigan where they cut holes under the Jersey Barriers to give smaller animals the chance to finish crossing.

    The vertical jump of a deer is impressive. They tend to jump higher when spooked. Most reasonable fences are no barrier to deer. They will push through or under anything they can't get over. Which means constant maintenance of the fence.
     
  8. inkahauts

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    True, but they seemed to have found deer will go along the fence if they can cross without jumping it i think...

    The alert things are interesting. Have you heard if they are helping?
     
  9. veryoldschool

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    This is true.
    I had 4' fencing that they would simply walk up to and "hop over".
    When I added a second fence close enough to the first that they didn't have a landing between the two, they stopped hopping.
     
  10. Rich

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    The state has guys who drive around and pick up animals (dead, of course) on the state highways. Our township's dog catcher is tasked with doing that. We see raccoons, skunks, squirrels, groundhogs, the odd fox and an occasional coyote, and, of course, many deer on River Road. That's a county road, they get picked up pretty quickly.

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  12. Rich

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    Probably happens in the far western part of the state. Can't even shoot a BB gun in our town.

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  13. Rich

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    I was stunned the first time a deer stood and waited to see what I was gonna do. When I waved it across the road and he quickly ran across...well, I didn't expect anything to happen when I waved him across, I thought they were too dumb to know what a road was, but I've been watching them and they are learning.

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  14. Rich

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    Oh, I know that's the problem, but what's the solution?

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  15. Rich

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    Yup, I've seen them jump 8 foot fences. We had them at work to keep people out of dangerous places with barbed wire across the top and that worked, but the township doesn't allow that anymore and as soon as we took the barbed wire down the deer were jumping the fences.

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  16. Rich

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    Afghan Hounds can do that too. Used to know one that visited our yard regularly to play with my German Shepard. She'd just stand by the fence, I think it was a 5 foot fence, and do a quick hop over it. Amazing to watch.

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  17. longrider

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    I have seen exactly the same thing. The deer stands on the side of the road watching and once all the traffic has gone by it crosses the road. It makes me wonder if this is an example of evolution. The ones that are too dumb and just run out into the road get killed and the ones that look first survive which reinforces the trait
     
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  18. Cholly

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    My late wife grew up on a farm in Falls, PA. The family had to put up with city boy hunters who would drive up the road, spot a deer and jump out of the car and shoot. Crazy.

    My daughter had her car totaled at night by a deer on the NY Thruway near Utica many years ago. At her present home in Eastern NY, deer are a continuing problem. They come up from fields nearby and munch on her flowers.

    Highways in Upstate NY have deer crossing signs in areas where deer are most often found..

    I
     
  19. veryoldschool

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    We tried that if Calif, but the dear acted like they couldn't read and kept crossing wherever they wanted
     
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    Riding in western Maryland with family as a young child, my dad would point out interesting roadside signs like, "Watch For Falling Rocks", the wiggly "Sharp Curves Ahead", and my favorite sign, "Deer Crossing", about which I remember asking my dad, 'How do the deer know to cross there?' His answer, as I recall, was "They just know. The smart ones cross the road at deer crossings, the dumb ones don't and probably get killed. My father was a very smart man.
     
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