Digital 'Still' Camera Recommendations

Discussion in 'Tech Talk - Gadgets, Gizmos and Technology' started by fluffybear, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. Dec 5, 2010 #101 of 128
    hdtvfan0001

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    Yup - a key differentiator...which is the size in my S95.
     
  2. Dec 5, 2010 #102 of 128
    dmurphy

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    I respectfully disagree.

    You can even pick up the Canon Rebel T2i with a 'kit' lens for less than $800.

    http://store.uniquephoto.com/e/index.php/canon-eos-rebel-t2i-ef-s-18-55mm-is-kit-4462b001.html

    The T2i is, for all intents & purposes, an OUTSTANDING DSLR. Is it a pro-grade camera? No.

    But between a P&S and a T2i, I'd take the T2i any day.

    The 18-55 Image Stabilized "kit" lens that comes with the T2i is actually quite good - it's an order of magnitude better than the 18-55 non-IS lens that came before it.

    The sensor in the T2i is basically the same as in the 60D. Its the same size, 18mp, 1080P video sensor that Canon has been using across the line.

    For the price, you can't beat it.

    Disclaimer: I just sold off my Rebel XSi and bought an EOS 7D. Amazing camera, and offered a few things that the T2i didn't that I was willing to pay for (more frames per second, more autofocus points, etc.)

    But if you're debating between the S95 and the T2i, the T2i wins on every count (except, of course, for physical size.)
     
  3. Dec 5, 2010 #103 of 128
    Steve

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    Ya. They phased them out the past couple of new camera years once the 1/2.3" sensors were ready for prime time, because manufacturing a camera with a zoom is less expensive with a smaller sensor. The bigger the sensor, the bigger the lens optics need to be to achieve the same zoom ratio.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2010 #104 of 128
    hdtvfan0001

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    Totally agree - the TSi is indeed a fine camera.

    Comparing the two - including the drastic price differences...is fruitless, as they serve two entirely different photography markets.

    If you're going to have a DSLR, you need all the things commonly used to take advantage of its features...inlcuding multiple filters and lens units. I also contend that you need alot more than a lens kit to render the TS2i worthwhile, bring the price far over $1000 when you finish that process.

    Having seen a close friend go through that very purchase experience...he ended up with over $1175 when he was finished, and I would not remove a single optional item he purchased if I was getting a TS2i myself.
     
  5. Dec 5, 2010 #105 of 128
    Steve

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    If you don't mind a camera around your neck instead of inside your pocket, the Rebel XS DSLR is available for $485.

    I'm personally holding out for the newly announced GF2. Almost P&S-sized with DSLR sized image sensor and quality. Should be around $900 with zoom. It's predecessor, last year's GF1, is now being sold for $650 with zoom. A pro photographer friend of mine absolutely loves his.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2010 #106 of 128
    hdtvfan0001

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    I didn't care for the Lumix line build quality at all. Multiple retailers told me they get "plenty Lumix units returned".

    That surprised me, as in general...I'm a Panasonic productt farn.

    Also....based on blog posts I've read...a number of the previous generation units were returned based on poor materials and construction. Perhaps the G2 will be improved in that area.
     
  7. Dec 5, 2010 #107 of 128
    Steve

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    I sold cameras while working my way through school, and retailers like to push the cameras they have the highest profit margins on. I've used my friend's GF1. It's built like a Leica, which is the highest compliment I can give any camera.

    From the DPReview review of the GF1: "it feels dense and solid, and the fit and finish are superb - overall it is, especially as here in the all-black version, a very classy camera, and one you can't help pick up and play with."
     
  8. Dec 5, 2010 #108 of 128
    phrelin

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    Over the years we have had Nikons and Canons. But right now we're using two Lumix models and they are really great, much to my initial surprise.
     
  9. Dec 5, 2010 #109 of 128
    hdtvfan0001

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    Like I mentioned earlier...multiple reviews are a must view...

    http://www.digitaltrends.com/digital-camera-reviews/panasonic-lumix-dmc-fz100-review/

    Most of the negatives I've read on the Lumix line come from actual buyes/users in blogs...not the advertising-paid websites that promote certain manuacturers...
     
  10. Dec 5, 2010 #110 of 128
    Steve

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    Not sure what you're referring to, since that's not a GF1/GF2 review. It's a review of a camera with a 1/2.3" (4.16 x 6.16 mm) sensor, as opposed to the GF1's 13.5 x 18mm sensor. :scratchin

    Ya. No ads on the review you pointed me to above, either. :lol:

    RE: DPReview and their competitors, being a life-long camera buff, I've followed most of them since their inception, and DPReview is about as objective as they get. They generally don't hold back when they are unhappy about something. If you look at the conclusion page of almost any one of their reviews, there are usually as many "cons" listed as "pros".
     
  11. Dec 5, 2010 #111 of 128
    hdtvfan0001

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    I've found DPReviews to be very inconsistent in terms of depth and accuracy. That's neither here nor there. The point is...I'd never consider one source for info.
     
  12. Dec 8, 2010 #112 of 128
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    I've just upgraded my Canon S51S with the newest SX30IS and am very happy. For a Point & Shoot I don't think it can be beaten. It's got 35x optical zoom (I always have digital zoom disabled) and does HD Video in Stereo. To go along with it I have a Rebel XSi and a tiny little SD3500. Why all three? Well concerts with don't allow cameras, you can easily smuggle the SD3500 inside a purse (or bra), the Rebel is great for a true DSLR and the SX is not counted as a professional camera so for concerts where cameras are allowed it's the perfect unit.
     
  13. lflorack

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    As I mentioned earlier (above) , I have added the first 14 pix of over 1000 taken with our S90 and posted them here.
     
  14. hdtvfan0001

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    Congrats....the 30IS is a nice P&S camera for just the things you indicated you want to use it for...
    Very nice photos....that looks like one heck of a great trip you enjoyed! :)
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    Nice pictures.

    My wife and I did a Mediterranean cruise for out 25th anniversary. It’s the best vacation we’ve ever taken. :)

    Mike
     
  16. gilviv

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    The Canon Rebel series cameras are a great product. I have been in the business for 30 years and have always used Canon pro equipment, but when the misses asked for her OWN camera I got her the Canon Rebel Xsi w/ a 35-200 zoom lens. She loves it and I have to say she takes some incredibly beautiful images with it!
     
  17. hdtvfan0001

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    Agree.

    Canon is also cited as making some of the best P&S cameras out there right now.
     
  18. Laxguy

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    Well, no, you don't *need* additional lenses, and you don't need filters at all. Eventually one wants additional gear, but this makes a great starter kit.
     
  19. hdtvfan0001

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    Respectifully disagree.

    Kinda like a Rolls with a Bose audio system in it...if you're gonna get an above-average camera without the common "accesories", you're only enjoying part of its capabilities.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    My point is "need". Initially, you don't need anything but what comes in the box. Yes, additional lenses will be desired, a good flash unit, a polarizer, lens hoods, not to mention a good case, more flash cards, a flash card reader, a new computer, er....:lol: Unlike a poor audio system, you don't have to uninstall or reinstall. Just add stuff when you can afford it.

    I am facing somewhat similar decisions re D*.... in another thread.
     

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