Directv 4K quality

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  1. Apr 9, 2016 #61 of 270
    HoTat2

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    Well I'd certainly appreciate what research to look at that really proves the opposite. Because from everything I've read or seen (in fact even common logic) upscaling cannot improve PQ.

    And the interpolation of pixels you speak of and compression-decompression processes can actually make things worse if not done properly. But whatever the case they can never make for better quality than what was originally in the image to start with no matter how well they're done.

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  2. Apr 9, 2016 #62 of 270
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    Well, unless you've seen the smaller 4K sets side by side with 1080p sets I don't see how you can say that. I'd think (and I'm correcting a statement I made in a post a month or so ago) you'd see the difference and the difference would be a better picture on the 4K set. You really have to see this to believe it. And all that stuff about not seeing any difference if you sit a lot farther back is just pure BS. My TV room is about 17' deep and if I stand all the way back the picture still looks the same. Just better than my 1080p plasmas. I have to admit I didn't expect this after reading so many reviews about distance viewing.

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  3. Apr 9, 2016 #63 of 270
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    Me too. We were watching the new Criminal Minds spin-off last night on CBS and the PQ was really good. I really gotta doubt that a "true 4K" picture is gonna be much better.

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  4. Apr 9, 2016 #64 of 270
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    Nope, all that was just the opinions of...I don't know what to call those people that came out with all that crap about distances and sizes. They were wrong. I don't sit really close to my 65" set, same place I watched my 60" plasma and the PQ is so much better...

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  5. Apr 9, 2016 #65 of 270
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    I don't even watch my plasma. I might spring for another Sammy 65" for the bedroom and put the plasma in our living room, which would make my granddaughter really happy.

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  6. Apr 9, 2016 #66 of 270
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    Actually upscaling can give you a better picture. It in essence on a 4K TV can fill in the gap's left by larger pixels on a 1080 P TV. This would give you a smoother image. Of course how good it does depend a lot on how it upscales the images in the first place and the quality of the image in the first place.
     
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    A few years ago on another forum I had a two or three week long argument with a couple guys about upscaling DVD players. Both of them quoted chapter and verse from the bible of advanced technology in order to prove to me what I was seeing was (and had to be) exactly the same PQ that a normal DVD player would put out. Finally, I asked them what brand and model DVD upscalers they had. Turns out neither of them had upscalers and neither of them had ever tried one out. This appears to be the same thing. All I know and all I can say is the 4K set definitely puts out a much better picture than my 1080p Panny plasma does when viewing any content.

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  8. Apr 9, 2016 #68 of 270
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    Which 4K TV do you have?

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  9. Apr 9, 2016 #69 of 270
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    4K vs 1080p isn't the same as SD vs HD. That was a real WOW. This (4K) is just better than 1080p.

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  10. Apr 9, 2016 #70 of 270
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    Maybe the best way to say it is that while you can not increase the detail of the original you can increase the quality of how it looks when displayed on something larger than a postcard.
     
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  12. Apr 9, 2016 #72 of 270
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    Simple and only fact is, I am sitting here in my man cave watching up-converted programming on my new Sammy UN-48JS8500 tv. The only thing I have to compare the picture quality to is 7 years sitting in the exact same spot with all the same "other" equipment and provider watching on a Sony KDR-40V5100. That and my older Sammy UN-55D8000 in the other room that I will leave out of this dissertation. I really don't care if it is the up-conversion, newer technology in the tv, better color capabilities, coincidental improvements in cameras used or the transmission of the signal, one or more of a multitude of other variables that go into me receiving a signal, or just a change in the alignment of the planets and stars. Maybe I just did a much better job calibrating the Sammy over the Sony? No matter the reason, I see a considerable improvement in picture quality in the 4K up-converted HD picture over what I was watching. Why attempt to dispute this?

    As far as true 4K viewing, the only thing I have commented on that so far is that I don't see enough, if any difference to warrant upgrading to receive 4K programming. It would seem to me that is in agreement with those proclaiming there is an inherent inability to detect a difference on a 48" set, so no argument from me on that.
     
  13. Apr 9, 2016 #73 of 270
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    I just got my hr 54-200 and C61 client yesterday for a 58 inch Vizio and watching the Masters right now on 106, there is a noticeable difference, smiling producing picture. Now a person like my wife would not say lets run out and get one of these along with the 4K programming, but for early adopters of the technology, it makes no sense to not get all the available programming being offered.
     
  14. Apr 9, 2016 #74 of 270
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    Because it's what they do. lol
     
  15. Apr 9, 2016 #75 of 270
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    I did an A/B comparison between The Masters being broadcast live on DirecTV and the Masters 4K app on my TVs and there is a notable improvement in detail retention in the broadcast. The app looks like the middle ground between Netflix 1080p and 4K.
     
  16. Apr 10, 2016 #76 of 270
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    Geez!!!! Do you have a 4k TV? You would have to be blind not to see that upscaling works.
     
  17. Apr 10, 2016 #77 of 270
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    DirecTV 4K picture quality is fantastic. I have noticed a huge difference. But I am also watching on a 123" screen. The larger the screen, the more noticeable the improvement will be.

    In comparison to other 4K sources I have, like Netflix and YouTube, DirecTV is the best. The DTV broadcast is also the only 4K/60p I have received to date. Most of the other sources are 4K/30p or 4K/24p.
     
  18. Apr 10, 2016 #78 of 270
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    Nah, ... no interest by anyone here in 4K yet. Everything is 1080P here except for one 1200P and a budget 720P model. (6 TVs total)

    But on the later set for instance, watching 480i upscaled to 1366 x 768.... no change in image quality that anyone here can detect.

    From 480i upscaled to any 1920 x 1080 set... again no change in image quality. Also, to be honest, no one can really see the difference between the 720P set vs. the 1080P ones.

    From 480i upscaled to the one 1920 x 1200 set in the kitchen (a 16:10 AR set). No change again.

    So in the same vein, why should upscaling 720p or 1080i to 4K be expected to look any better?

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  19. Apr 10, 2016 #79 of 270
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    I have the 4K golf on, the quality is nice, the speed seems a bit slow choppy, but the installer is adjusting the dish now.

    Anyone else have similar experience with 4K?
     
  20. Apr 10, 2016 #80 of 270
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    Yup, this is getting like a discussion on the Apple watches, which I wouldn't comment on because I don't have one. That approach would be more appropriate to the 4K conversation than listening to folks that don't have 4K sets tell us we're not seeing what we definitely are seeing. I don't care much about why we see it, just that we see it and it is superior to what I see on my 1080p sets.

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