DirecTV 4K UHD plans

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  1. Rich

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    My dopey Panny smart TV has that feature as do all my TVs. Just hit the Info button on the remotes. I can't believe the Sammys don't have that feature.

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  2. harsh

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    I don't disagree. Sports is one of those things that you pay a premium to get and you only get to use it once or twice.

    That said, there's a reason that they're doing 8K for the Olympics. I wonder how the old timers feel about their highlights being on film and in really poor SD versus the HD highlights that they seem to favor doing some manner of image processing on so you know they are highlights.
     
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    IMHO, the people who claim upscaling makes a big difference are seeing what they want to see to justify the money they spent on their 4K TV. You can't create picture data that doesn't exist, while there may be some small improvements possible here and there you'd have to know what to look for to tell the difference. If upscaling mattered you should see a significantly better picture watching a DVD on a HDTV than you do on a EDTV (not a CRT, but a digital 480p TV) since that is exactly the same thing.

    The people who claim upscaling matters will disagree with me, but you know what you saw, and should base your expectations of what you'd get from a 4K TV on what you see, not what someone else tells you they see.
     
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    That was only one experience. The other experiences I've had with 4Ks all seem to be positive, as I've written. For all I know the two sets could have been identical, it was Costco after all. Just thought it was odd. I've been using upscalers on DVDs for years and I know I get a better picture using them than I would with just a DVD player. I believe all the people that have written about their own 4Ks, they agree with everything I've seen in the stores except for that one instance in Costco.

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    Rich, Can't check ATM, but does your Panny show info for built-in apps like YouTube? Or just what's coming in to its external inputs. I was unable to get info on my YouTube stream yesterday, but I was using a soft remote on my iPhone, not the Panny remote.
     
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    Comparing PQ at a big box store is a total crap shoot. Half the staff haven't a clue what they're talking about, some who do will lie about the feed, and if you find someone both knowledgeable and honest, get his card and reward him with a sale. YMMV.
     
  7. Drew2k

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    The Samsung will show resolution info only for HDMI and component inputs as well as the TV input when DISPLAY or SELECT is pressed on the remote, but it doesn't show resolution info for native streaming apps like YouTube, Vudu, Netflix, etc.


    On the Roku and Samsung YouTube apps I found detail as follows: YouTube > Settings > Show Video Info > Enabled.
     
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    Boy was that option buried deep in the YouTube menu. Good find!

    Here's a phone cam grab of what I'm getting on that video today. I assume it's 1080p, because that's my native res.
     

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    Don't see it on my Samsung TV.
    When running the Youtube app, I have other choices but nothing labeled settings

    When launching the app I can sign in, search, and select certain categories.

    Nothing else
     
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    Steve, I had a devil of a time finding settings myself. On my Panny, I go left and scroll through all the categories. Way down at the bottom, I finally found "settings". Once in settings, I had to go all the way to the right to find the "info" toggle.
     
  11. GregLee

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    I wouldn't try to manage people's expectations; their expectations are their business, but you're wrong about upscaling. It can improve picture quality in the sense of making the picture look more like what you would see if you were looking at a scene in person. A more realistic picture is what interests me, and I want my TV to do the best it can to restore the picture detail, color gamut, and dynamic range that were taken away when the video was graded for video distribution.

    There is a trivial, and in my opinion irrelevant, argument that any enhancement to a video that meets the rec. 709 standard is a distortion and degradation of the picture, because the the picture will no longer be standard. This is trivial, because it's just saying that only what is standard can be standard, and anything that changes what is standard is non-standard. And it's true. Nobody should ever disagree with a tautology.

    However, it's not true that you can't restore detail from an actual scene that got lost somewhere in the recording and distribution channel. The only real issue is whether the detail that you try to restore is realistic enough to bring the enhanced picture closer to the look of the original scene, or whether, instead, the picture looks worse. It's not a straightforward issue, but not all changes from the standard are distortions. Changes from reality are distortions.

    I watched Sharapova's French open match this morning on DirecTV's 70x channel, and the picture with exaggerated highlights, artificially widened color gamut, and uprezzed from 1080i to 4k was first rate.
     
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    Beware any salesman that claims his employer has a certified calibration technician who regularly maintains their display models.

    One press of the scene button and all that is out the window.
     
  13. NR4P

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    I looked yesterday and it wasnt there. Today its there. Turned it on and tried a few YouTube 4k videos. Odd that even though it shows 21mbps downloads not getting anything above 1080.

    Did some online searches and even folks with higher speeds have same thing. So have to wonder whats going on.
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about. I see an improvement in sharpness every day on satellite 1080i to my 4k TV.
     
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    No, it doesn't show anything that's on the "Smart" window when I press the Info button. Another thing that annoys me. It does show the res for whatever I put on the TV, such as the Fire TV boxes I'm using at the moment. I just checked my son's new LG LCD set and it does the same thing with the built in apps...nothing. First time I got to play with it. It upscales ABC and Fox to 1080p/60 and does a really nice job of it. I thought hitting his Info button might give me more info but it just gave me the res.

    Makes me wonder if any TVs give an indication of the res on any built in apps.

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    Certainly lucky if you find anyone at any Costco who can steer you in the right direction. I have been assured by a Costco employee that D* only puts out 720p on all its channels. How's that for the straight scoop? I didn't argue, I just walked away shaking my head.

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    Panny, LG and now Sammy. Is this an industry thing? At least you got something, when I press the Info button on the built in apps I get nothing. I got nothing on the LG either.

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    You get all that by hitting the Info button? Boy, is my TV dopey!

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    Ahh, gotta try that, wait one...This is disheartening. All I get in Settings is the opportunity to put a password in, or change the way the app screen looks. No res info at all. Dopey TV. I'm certainly glad I didn't buy it for its Smart features. I just reread your post and tried to "go all the way the right", can't go to the right. Dopey TV.

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    Pressing the info button on the Vizio P Series while in the Netflix app shows the display resolution, program running time, and audio information.
     

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