DirecTV 4K UHD plans

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  1. Nov 14, 2014 #701 of 2220
    toobs

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    I'm confuse. Directv 4K will only work on Samsung TV's for now? No Vizio, Sony, etc?
     
  2. Nov 14, 2014 #702 of 2220
    Sixto

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    Samsung RVU connected, not HDMI.
     
  3. Nov 14, 2014 #703 of 2220
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    So, the TV set to have RVU in order to get 4k from Directv?
     
  4. Nov 14, 2014 #704 of 2220
    Diana C

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    Yes, the TV must support RVU and 4K for this to work at all. It sounds like DirecTV has only tested it on Samsung (one of their partners) TVs. The TV must also be connected to the Genie AS an RVU client, not via HDMI to the Genie, a Mini or any other DirecTV device.
     
  5. Nov 14, 2014 #705 of 2220
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    I'm about to buy a 4k by Vizio. Do you think that Directv will support their screens?
     
  6. Nov 14, 2014 #706 of 2220
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    Eventually new DVRs and clients will be released that support UHD via HDMI. Until then, a Vizio will be only be supported if it has RVU client support and DirecTV announces support for it.
     
  7. Nov 14, 2014 #707 of 2220
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    So, what you are saying that the current Genies can't handle 4k without RVU?
     
  8. Nov 14, 2014 #708 of 2220
    Sixto

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    That is what everyone is saying, as best we know now.
     
  9. Nov 14, 2014 #709 of 2220
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    As far as we all know at the moment, that is correct. There is no evidence that the Genies can decode a UHD signal, even if encoded with MPEG-4. We know that the Genies do not support HDMI 2.0, and HDMI 1.4 (the version they do support) can't output UHD at 60fps (although for the near future the vast majority of UHD will be fild origianls and so will only be 24fps). It is also extremely unlikely that the Genie's will be able to decode H.265. UHD content encoded with MPEG-4 is 4 times as large as 1080p at the same frame rate.
     
  10. Nov 14, 2014 #710 of 2220
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    Now, you have me second guessing if I should get a Vizio and wait for Directv to support it and wait for a 4k dvr, or buy a Samsuhg with RVU.
     
  11. Nov 14, 2014 #711 of 2220
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    I would consider getting a 4K TV the day I could watch a football game live on ESPN at bestbuy.
     
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    Diana C

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    Honestly, IMO unless you need to replace an existing TV, I would wait before buying a UHD set. Not all UHD sets on the market have HDMI 2.0 ports, so these will be forever limited to a max of 30 fps (except for the tiny number that have up-gradable HDMI modules). There is also so little UHD content available that I don't see the point of jumping now. Of course, some people just HAVE to have all the shiny new toys.
     
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    Will they charge us an additional $10 a month 4K fee?
     
  14. Nov 14, 2014 #714 of 2220
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    Count on an additional fee.

    Even Netflix added $4 a month if you want 4K.
     
  15. Nov 14, 2014 #715 of 2220
    Sixto

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    $6 RVU fee for the TV, until native support.
     
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    So, here I am with a RVU enabled 2014 UHD Samsung set and wondering, what do I do next? Right now the set is connected via HDMI to my Genie receiver in the living room. The Samsung takes all 1080p signals from the Genie and upscales them to 4K. But I guess the Genie can't pass the new DTV 4K content to the Samsung via HDMI. So how does one enable a new Samsung UHD set as a RVU client? Can the Samsung be a RVU client and be an HDMI connected set too? My general thoughts are:

    • DTV is already "late" to the table when it comes to UHD content. Netflix offers a few movies and documentaries in 4K that are viewable using an internet connection and the Netflix App on the Samsung Smart Hub. I'm already watching the second season of "House of Cards" and other content in 4K.
    • Samsung offered purchasers of their UHD sets a one-terrebyte USB drive that included UHD movies and documentaries. At least that way you could watch 4K content if you had no other sources available.
    • There are numerous 4K videos on YouTube that you can stream to the Samsung, again using the YouTube app on the Samsung Smart Hub.
    I don't particurarly want to pay extra to watch DTV's 4K offerings. The Samsung already does a remarkable job upscaling 1080p content to 4K. I don't really want to make this expensive new TV a RVU client (and I don't even know how to do this). And, if I were to enable my Samsung as a RVU client, what about the audio? Presumably Dolby Digital 5.1 is in the media stream of the 4K content from DTV? If so, it would have to be decoded by my amplifier to work in my HT setup. How does that work?

    I applaud DTV for pursuing 4K, just as they did HDTV so many years ago. I have always been impressed with their committment to new TV technologies but am confused as to how to implement this latest version. Any thoughts are appreciated....
     
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  18. Nov 14, 2014 #718 of 2220
    Sixto

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    Just thinking out loud ... having never done this myself ... need the TV on your home IP network, Ethernet or via DECA, need to enable RVU on the TV, must be some Samsung screens for that, need to register the Samsung RVU client with the Genie ($6/month), use the Samsung remote or DirecTV remote but talking to TV not receiver ... initial thoughts.
     
  19. Nov 15, 2014 #719 of 2220
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    And you also must have a minimum of 25 mbps internet service for Netflix 4K streaming
    https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306
     
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