DirecTV 4K UHD plans

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  1. Dec 11, 2014 #881 of 2220
    Rich

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    I have seen the same source feed both a Samsung 4K and a Sammy 1080p. But the feed wasn't in 4K. Looked really good on both sets, tho.

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    Taken from a post I made at another board earlier this year. It's specifically as relates to Sony 4K sets, but some here may find the comparison tools handy in person when evaluating 1080P->4K upscaling and 1080P vs 4K sets on the same content.

    This may be old news to many, but some of the newer faces trying to decide on 4K sets may not be familiar with this tool.

    If anyone trying to decide between various Sony 4K sets has not been to Best Buy and spent some time with the Sony interactive 4K kiosk, you REALLY need to do so. I spent about an hour at one today, digging a bit deeper than I had previously, as I hadn't realized the extent of the demo material available.

    Unlike the Samsung display, which only allows you to view the native 4K loop, Sony apparently isn't afraid to let you see a variety of sources, warts and all, without having to get a salesdroid to change inputs, etc. The contents of the kiosks appear to vary by store.

    For example, here is a picture of a kiosk lifted from Google:

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    Note the 65X900B at center and the 55X900B at lower left.

    The setup at my store was different, and actually more useful:

    Upper Left: 65X850B
    Lower Left: 65X900B
    Center: 65X950B
    Upper Right: 65W950B (1080P native)
    Lower Right: 70W850B (1080P native)


    Now what I hadn't realized before today is that the kiosk allows you to switch between a number of different sources, running the same signal to all 5 TVs simultaneously (my apologies if I have any of these incorrect as I'm quoting from memory):

    1. Native 4K demo loop
    2. 4K Extended dynamic range demo
    3. 4K Triluminous color demo
    4. Sony Subwoofer demo (?)

    Those are the main options, but if you swipe the Native 4K demo loop onto the TVs, at lower right there is a "demo other sources" button. Press on that and you get to see 1080P content upscaled, which is infinitely more useful in my opinion. I don't know if the options vary from store to store, but here are the options my store had:

    1. Blu-Ray. It was a demo Blu-Ray consisting of a number of clips from different sources, including World Cup soccer, Gran Turismo VI (I think), the movie 2012 trailer, a very contrasty monochromatic Sin City-esque music video. There may be more, but those are the ones I remember.
    2. ESPNHD (DirecTV)
    3. VelocityHD (DirecTV)
    4. FoodHD (DirecTV)
    5. PalladiaHD (DirecTV)



    [EDIT: I deleted the comparison of the 3 Sony sets, as apparently some view it as a Sony commercial. For those missing the point, it's NOT about Sony, but a way that you can compare either 4K on multiple sets simultaneously, and more importantly see the same 1080P content on both 4K and 1080P native sets at the same time. THAT is the point.]
     
  3. Dec 11, 2014 #883 of 2220
    Laxguy

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    What is your relationship with Sony?
     
  4. Dec 11, 2014 #884 of 2220
    PolkSDA

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    Seriously? That is what you come up with?

    I said in the intro that it was from a discussion specifically on SONY 4K sets.

    I was comparison shopping 4K sets throughout the month of October and there were other people asking 850B vs. 900B vs. 950B questions, so I posted the above as information on the other forum.

    It's germane to this thread here as there appear to be a bunch of people asking about 1080P content on 4K sets vs. 1080P content on 1080P sets, and this allows you to compare sets and sources firsthand, something that most people don't have access to.
     
  5. Dec 11, 2014 #885 of 2220
    Rich

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    Those numbers he's using, 800, 850, 900 and 950 are the processors, with 950 being the best.

    Rich
     
  6. Dec 11, 2014 #886 of 2220
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    In 18 Months you will be able to get a 4K SEKI 60" at walmart for $999 :rolling: Good review :righton:
     
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    A little roadmap I saw that shows the three phases for UHD (we can probably ignore the third for now, pretty sure no one will be interested in 8K anytime soon after requiring three 4K upgrades for the early adopters ;))

    As far as I'm concerned, it starts getting interesting with phase 2 with 120 fps and HDR. I'll be skipping phase 1 since there will be little content beyond movies prior to 2017/2018 anyway....


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    WestDC

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    Laxguy

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    All well and good, but have you any business relationship with Sony or its distributors? An easy question you could have answered with a word or two.
     
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    PolkSDA

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    FFS. No. Unless you consider buying a Sony HDTV "a business relationship".
     
  14. Dec 12, 2014 #894 of 2220
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    Was at BJ's yesterday and they had a Samsung 65" curved 4k ultraHD set for $2175!!
     
  15. Dec 12, 2014 #895 of 2220
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    Of course not...they will only roll out 8K when the price of 4K sets drop to the point that their margins get as thin as they are on 1080P sets today.
     
  16. Dec 12, 2014 #896 of 2220
    ep1974

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    Saw the same TV at Costco yesterday, same price.
     
  17. Dec 12, 2014 #897 of 2220
    Oli74

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    I wonder when channel would switch to 1080p all my HD channels are 1080i


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  18. Dec 12, 2014 #898 of 2220
    P Smith

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    perhaps when H.265 will be mature and implemented in silicon and all devices [DVR,TV,STB,BR players, etc] will have chips with it; I'm not telling you as a consumer, about encoders at content provider/sat/cable companies .as relevant part of the process
     
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    harsh

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    The idea that Sony is willing to set up these kiosks and the other manufacturers are relying on the sales people to "educate" their customers about how the TVs will perform in the real world speaks volumes.
     
  20. Dec 12, 2014 #900 of 2220
    WestDC

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    Yes, I agree but in my post I was keeping in sync - as soon as one format is ON another is out the door - (example) anything 2.0 will be non supported in 18 months YMMV- SO anything 4K Now will be old school in 18 months :) - Not that there is anything wrong with that :rotfl:

    I applaud all the folks that run out and get the new stuff FIRST - it makes my wait that much better :)

    Still enjoying the 108i & 1080p/24 with same old eyes that for so many years enjoyed the Color & 480i I didn't know was no good.
     
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