Directv AM21 or AM21N, Who has the Best Price?

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  1. codespy

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    So it would appear that we now know who has the best price on the AM21, and that would be DirecTV- $0.00 and free shipping- Thread answered. :)

    Here are some pics of what was shipped. Not as thorough of a "First Look" as done by the professionals on this site.

    Unfortunately after testing it out tonight, the max signal it will show is still 85%, just like the AM21N. My original AM21's still indicate 100% when available.

    Included in the package are old photocopied AM21 English instructions and a newer AM22 instruction manual solamente en Español.
     

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  2. peds48

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    Pictures of the actual unit would have been better, just saying.....
     
  3. codespy

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    Yea I know, but it is exactly the same as the AM21N exterior, no changes, or I probably would have. I was trying to keep it short and sweet.........
     
  4. jorb

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    Not so quick codespy,
    They are free if you already have them and if they fail, Directv will replace them free under the protection plan.
    And if you had a HR20 with built-in off air tuners and Directv swapped it out with a newer receiver without built-in off air tuners, they would throw in AM21 for free to match the old set-up. If that AM21 failed it would be covered for free under the protection plan.

    The customer that never ever owned a AM21 is out of luck.
    You have 14 AM21's Holy crap.and 4 of them were free.
    I'm up the creek without a paddle.

    Whats up with the AM22.
    I thought there was only 2 models AM21 and AM21N.
     
  5. am3211

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    All mine were free when I replaced HR20's. All replacements, when they have failed, have been free and I have never had the protection plan in my 14 years with Directv.
     
  6. slice1900

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    So all this wondering what is going on when the AM21 appeared to be discontinued, now we know it has been replaced by an AM22 that is apparently identical to the AM21N in every way except the name. So much for hoping Directv would improve their woeful OTA hardware with something more up to date or at least smaller...
     
  7. peds48

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    just because is the same case it does not necessarily means it has. Same guts as it's predecessor. We need someone with the new one to do a teardown....


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  8. dpeters11

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    Maybe, but with a manufacture date of 2011, that's about the same time as the AM21N.
     
  9. codespy

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    Roger that....here you go.
     

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    I can't read chip markings very well, but it looks identical to the AM21 board.
     
  11. HoTat2

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    Yeah. ....

    Oh well, ... sign ... guess I'll be keeping my OTA TIVO with it's monthly subscription fee past the mandatory 1st year commitment given the hopelessness of DIRECTV improving their OTA any time soon if at all.

    Well, maybe I'll make it worth the while staying with TIVO and upgrade to their new "Bolt" early next year for fun. :)

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  12. peds48

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    Directv didnt even bother to shrink it down....


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  13. dpeters11

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    Honestly, with the spanish manual I wonder if this was the model number for the Latin America market.
     
  14. slice1900

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    Yeah I hadn't noticed that manufacture date, it isn't a new product, and I think you're absolutely right that this is a model from Puerto Rico or one of the handful of Directv LA countries that are in the process of converting to ATSC like Mexico.

    Maybe they're out of AM21s, and burning through stock of AM22s (maybe why they're giving them away now?) So we're back to wondering if something new is coming or this is the start of a gradual phase out of OTA support.
     
  15. Delroy E Walleye

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    From what I think I've read, "Bolt" requires new subscription. Old subscriptions not honored. However, I like the idea of a one-machine solution for OTA, streaming and 4k all in one. I'd just hope that the "streaming" stays complete in the DVR with the ability to "trickplay" all programming.
     
  16. slice1900

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    Tivo's lifetime subscriptions have always been for the lifetime of the unit, not the lifetime of the buyer. You always had to buy a new lifetime subscription with a new Tivo.

    Whether you can trickplay the streaming depends on who you are streaming from. Tivo has no control over that, it is all contractual.
     
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  17. Delroy E Walleye

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    Unfortunately, so far it looks like there's still no easy "one size fits all" solution out there. Reading AM21 threads here make it look like a major PITA to use and they seem to be able to get messed up by updates.

    New TiVo looks like it could be a good alternative for "cord cutters," at any rate. Or perhaps a usable addition if expense and changing inputs isn't a problem.
     
  18. codespy

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    Surprisingly, I had another AM-21 die last week. I called today the 1-866-678-9471 and this time got an account specialist, not PP Dept. She asked what my issue was and before she transferred me to tech support (which I was not looking for), and she completely surprised me. She indicated that as a long time customer since 1998, and without me asking for any deals, she gave me $10 off for 2 months, $3 off for 12 months, and $7 off for 6 months, and for the first time ever in my calls, free Playboy for 3 months. Never had that Playboy offer before. I looked at my wife of 16 years and she told me to take the deal! Perhaps I should be worried about that........

    I then spent over 45 minutes on the phone with tech support/PP dept. and she could not find the off-air tuner availability. She was ready to hang up with me after the 45 minute mark, and as a last ditch effort, I asked her to look at the notes on my account from one month ago when I got other off-air tuners sent out to me. She noticed the notes and finally found the off-air tuners. She indicated they are not on the protection plan ordering screen, but on the normal ordering screen under "accessories", where it lists "off-air tuner". Perhaps someone on this site who is a DirecTV CSR can validate or confirm this finding.

    I have two more off-air tuners being sent to me at no charge after this call tonight. Apparently, they are still in stock.
     
  19. dpeters11

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    That deal seems odd, but I do wo if the changes to that organization that are being made extend past the magazine.

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  20. slice1900

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    That's really weird. One that you have had multiple failures (maybe a nearby lightning strike was picked up by your antenna and zapped your AM21s?) but two that they give them away for free, but aren't supplying them to dealers anymore.

    I wonder if they'd let someone who doesn't have any get them for free? If they do, what stops that person from selling them on eBay for a few bucks? Eventually they'll have to run out, then we might get a clue about their future plans - see what the CSRs say when you ask for the 'off air tuner' accessory and they can't order it anymore...
     

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