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DirecTV and Dish Network may be forced to carry local channels in smallest markets

Discussion in 'General Satellite Discussion' started by Steve615, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    Unfortunately not. The digital conversion does not affect satellite rebroadcast (other than satellite companies needing to receive the ATSC digital signal instead of the NTSC analog signal for rebroadcast). Because of the original February 17th deadline DISH and DirecTV have already converted their receive sites over to DTV.

    Digital conversion does NOT require satellite carriers to carry channels in HD or to carry subchannels. There are separate rules that require a phased in carriage of HD but (and this is important) it only requires 100% HD carriage in markets where any HD is carried. If no stations in a market are carried in HD there is no requirement to upgrade.
     
  2. harsh

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    My area Comcast carries only the NBC weather channel. I'd see it as a disadvantage versus OTA except that with my receiver I get OTA.
     
  3. goldstar_media

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    Gotcha. So the only way satellite might pick up LATV which is 11.2 in NY and 9.2 in Chicago, is if Tribune convinces satellite that it's a quality station worthy of carriage.

    How come LATV is carried by Time Warner and Comcast in every major market(NY, Chicago, Miami, Houston, San Antonio) but not on Dish or Direct anywhere?
     
  4. mtnsackett

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    D* would not need any new satellites to carry all the locals they have had the capacity to carry over 1500 new locals for over a year when the put up the first of three new satellites in 2007 and 2008 and I know they have another one slated to be launched soon. Now Dish is another question.

    I came a crossed this article today
    http://www.reuters.com/article/technologyNews/idUSTRE5196V720090210

    My question is if satellite companies have to operate under a carry one carry all rule for local stations, how do they getaway with not carrying all of them in a market? I know many markets that only have a few of the stations broadcast. I personally have been a D* subscriber since 1995 and in that time I have been told every year that locals will be coming soon but they never have, it is about time that the government actually forced them to carry that which they have promised us for years.
     
  5. goldstar_media

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    It's possible that the locals are not carried b/c they asked for money and didn't get it. It's also possible that they have a weak signal, in which case, Dish and Direct can complain to the FCC and not have to carry the signal. Under "Must Carry" a broadcaster is still responsible for providing a broadcast quality signal.

    I bet that we'll see digital subchannels on Dish and Direct locals by summer.
     
  6. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

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    The end of September is the current window for the DIRECTV 12 launch. How much CONUS and LIL capacity it will add is up in the air remembering that there is already two Ka satellites in the slot that it is headed for.
     
  7. harsh

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    I bet we don't see any until the whole DTV transition is complete and all the stations have figured out what they are going to do. If I were a DBS provider, I wouldn't negotiate for carriage based on speculation where the government has stuck its nose in.
     
  8. mreposter

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    If congress passes this sort of regulation and forces E*/D* to carry locals in all markets, wouldn't this only be true for local stations that agreed to the standard must-carry rules? Meaning, if a local demanded payment for their signal, E/D* could still refuse to carry them.
     
  9. Jon Ellis

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    Yes, you are correct.
     
  10. GaryPotter

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    With a few exceptions, most subchannels are garbage. I can't blame satellite for not wanting to waste their bandwith on them. It would be another matter if the networks were to make digital channels have real programming and not just some weather and music stuff.
     
  11. goldstar_media

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    LATV is not garbage, and I'm sure Dish and Direct would love to have their affiliates, without being forced to carry other digital subs too. LATV has the ratings to prove it in LA where they are OTA.

    And those who knock the weather format on digital subs don't see the big picture. The weather format would benefit Dish and Direct since they don't currently have local weather. Sadly, the weather multicast channels in NYC are all gone.

    Dems will play the race card to get digital subs carried by satellite anyway.
     
  12. coldsteel

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    I get local weather on my DVR every morning through my Channel 100 link. [DISH] (red-Dish logo)-2-1. Most Dish receivers have that option. So subchannels are not 100% required.
     
  13. goldstar_media

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    Weather Plus on NBC's multicast channels was awesome. I can't believe Dish's local whatever you have is better.
     

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