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DIRECTV and HDNet Settle Lawsuit

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by tfederov, Dec 7, 2007.

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  1. Dec 7, 2007 #21 of 124
    Drew2k

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    I was one of the people willing to pay $4.99 a month for HD-NET - the rest of the channels in the package would have been a "bonus buy". Now that this is settled, I'm likely not going to pay for those other channels - I really just wanted HD-NET.

    I still have to ask why HGTV-HD, Food-HD and Discovery HD Theater are not in the Extra pack. These channels are not simulcasts of the SD channels - they show different programming on a different schedule.
     
  2. Dec 7, 2007 #22 of 124
    gcisko

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    HDnet remain in the $9.99 HD access area.
     
  3. Dec 7, 2007 #23 of 124
    bonscott87

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    Cool. This means I don't need the HD Extra pack. HDNet would have been the only reason for me to get it.
     
  4. Dec 7, 2007 #24 of 124
    tonyd79

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    I must be an odd duck.

    I watch far more HDNet Movies than HDNet, which the typical HDNet programming is found on other stations. That, and I like MGM and MHD. So I will stay with the package.

    I am sure it has to do with how contracts are written but HGTV and Food are almost identical to their SD counterparts. And HD Theater is considered part of an overall package of HD channels, not a stand alone channel. The real odd one is MHD but that is so unlike MTV et al, I can see that as well.

    Get off the notion that simulcast is the only measure of a channel being unique or not.
     
  5. Dec 7, 2007 #25 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    As Tony said...

    It is all in the contracts... and how the content provider was to determin subscriber counts/rates.
     
  6. Dec 7, 2007 #26 of 124
    gcisko

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    Yep. I have been asking this as well. If the reasoning for the HD extra tier is really any channels that are not also simulcast in SD, then all the ones you mention must go. If not their reasoning and explaination does not work at all. I find the lack of response to this quesiton very telling actually.
     
  7. Dec 7, 2007 #27 of 124
    gcisko

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    Sorry you get a -1 on this deal. Food and Food HD are not even close to the same. Having a few of the same shows (that I Personally do not like) in HD does not get it for me :D
     
  8. Dec 7, 2007 #28 of 124
    EdK99

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    The problem is the package has been a BS package from the start. Now people are going to pay $5 for 5 channels (if they choose)? So that is 50% more in HD fees - 9.99 (HD access) + 4.99 (BS package) for 5 more channels.

    If D* is going to promote this thing as a package that has channels that do not have SD counterparts then include all the channels in it like Discovery HD. Discovery HD Theater does NOT have a SD counterpart. Just like MHD is a channel with programming from VH1, MTV and CMT Discovert Discovery HD Theater is a channel that draws its programming from Discovery, TLC, Travel Channel and so on.

    So now that HDNet is out (for now) and Discovery HD Theater is not in their how can the continue to say that this package is for all that channels that do not have SD counterparts. Sounds like a flawed package to me.
     
  9. Dec 7, 2007 #29 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    What response have you been looking for?

    They have never stated that it was do to the "lack of simulcast"

    That was the initial assumption everyone made, when looking at the brakedown of the channel layouts.

    As pointed out multiple times in these discussion threads... it is most like (and probably is), dictated by the carraige contracts.

    It would not be surprising that most of those channels are basing their subscription counts (thus rates), on the base channel.... not specifically the "HD Version" of the channel.

    Food-HD and HGTV-HD not be exact duplicates of their base channels 24/7 probably isn't going to last forever...

    Discovery HD Theater is a "rollup" of a lot of the content from their other channels, but with Discovery announcing two more channels... how much "unique" content will be on HD Theater.... it probably is a case, were those that carry: Discovery, TLC, Sci, ect.... won't even opt to carry HD Theater... especially if it is going to cost more.
     
  10. Dec 7, 2007 #30 of 124
    puckhead

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    So, all the talk about "grandfathering" long time customers, just pie in the sky? :confused:
     
  11. Dec 7, 2007 #31 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Has been for a while.

    There will be no "grandfathering" for the HD Extra Pack
     
  12. Dec 7, 2007 #32 of 124
    Nick

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    The...
    IMO, it's definitely not a win-win for Cuban. Exactly one-half of his two-channel hi-def
    'Network' will be lost in D's premium tier, never to be seen or heard from again. Now
    is the time for Comcast to step up and add the HDNets to its meager hi-def lineup!
     
  13. Dec 7, 2007 #33 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Please point me at the advertisement that DirecTV is running that the HD Extra Pack, is being advertised as "the channels with no SD counterpart"

    Or where DirecTV has stated that is what HD Extra Pack is...

    Edit: Well.. you look and find:
    "Enhance your HD experience with a special group of high-definition-only channels that are not available in standard def. Add DIRECTV HD Extra Pack ($4.99/mo.) along with HD Access ($9.99/mo.) to your base package to enjoy these exciting HD-only channels. "

    On their main DirecTV/HD page

    Guess they will be changing that statement soon...
     
  14. Dec 7, 2007 #34 of 124
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    Now is the time for Nick to step up and get DirecTV™ and dump Comcast!:lol:
     
  15. Dec 7, 2007 #35 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    Why isn't a Win Win....

    He could have gone to court today... and lost, and neither of his channels would have been in the base package...

    Both sides... DirecTV and HDNet got something out of the settlement.
     
  16. Dec 7, 2007 #36 of 124
    Earl Bonovich

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    What??? The Cubs won the World Series? ;)
     
  17. Dec 7, 2007 #37 of 124
    MikeR7

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    :)
     
  18. Dec 7, 2007 #38 of 124
    jheda

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    :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  19. Dec 7, 2007 #39 of 124
    Drew2k

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    I guess I can understand this, but what does it mean for the future? New HD-only channels will have to fight to get added to the base HD package, otherwise they'll end up in the Extra package that you have to pay extra for. it's going to be hard for that new channel to get viewers unless DIRECTV makes that new channel "free" on a trial period when it's introduced.
     
  20. Dec 7, 2007 #40 of 124
    gcisko

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    Any response would have been much appreciated actually.

    But as noted by you later in this thread you did find the info and now hopefully understand why I feel someone is not indicating correct information.
     
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