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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by markman07, Mar 23, 2009.
They were last season, and they will be this season too.
First of all, Dish would never get it because they will never pay the money. They don't even carry MLB EI.
Competition doesn't keep lower subscriber costs for MLB or the other packages. They are the same regular price on all the providers and they go up every year. NFL ST has always been more expensive then the others, just because it's the most popular sport by far. Thus you can charge more because people will pay it. Competition at most might freeze rates for the first year, after that it will go up every year just like the other packages. But it doesn't matter now for another 5 years.
Hey now. None of that here!!
update: actually now the commish in his post owners meeting presser said a 17 game season would be:
afc = 9 home games.
nfc = 8 home games.
the conferences would alternate the extra home game each year & the "international" games would still count as a home game.
I can't install a dish where I live but I work for a D* vendor so I keep up with both carriers. Just this morning the message light on my Comcast box is on and the message is, "Sports Entertainment Customers: in spite of Comcast's efforts, the NFL may terminate Comcast's right to carry the NFL Network, and as a result may be removed on May 1 or after."
Eventually the Silver and Black will be back after Al Davis either dies or cannot run the team anymore.
That's Comcast's typical bs when it has a carrier disagreement. Basically the NFL wants the NFL Network on basic cable like the NBA,MLB channels and Comcast wants to keep it a higher tier and thus charge extra $$.
FYI your landlord or HOA can't stop you from putting up a dish. So unless you have a line of sight problem you can put up a dish by law.
You're right, I shouldn't have said competition. If there were multiple providers to spread the cost over, then they wouldn't have to charge the subscriber as much to make a profit. So theoretically if D* was only paying half the cost of buying the rights and other providers like Dish and Cable we paying for half. They could charge subscribers much less to earn the same profit. I think $200 for NFLST with HD is more in line with what they should be charging.
You're making a failed assumption: That multiple providers would *split* the 1 billion a year. I guarantee you that would not be the case. Let's say you had 3 providers. You'd probably be looking at 600-700 million each or something like that. If there is one thing the NFL is good at and that is making money.
And since MLB EI is already $190+, no way NFL ST would be just $200. Again, it's more popular thus more expensive. Just basic economics. They charge more *because they can*. If people wouldn't pay it, it would be cheaper. There are many times more subs to ST then MLB as well.
I think I agree with everyone that Superfan is a total rip off. That's why I make my yearly call and usually get at least half off if not for free. I'd like to see it cheaper overall. But looking at how the other packages are priced I'd say it should be around $250. $279 is a bit north of that, but not by a huge amount.
Personally I didn't read this news as "good." Inevitably it's going to result in a crazy price going totally bonkers. I'm sure DTV will "soften" it by an extra payment or just tacking on $10 per/mo to the existing payments, but that is really akin to boiling a frog slowly. The price is still nuts.
For people like me who subscribe to watch just a single team its getting to the point where its hard to justify (though I have so far). I've sub'd since '98 and the price was fair until the last couple of years. I really do fear what this new ginormous deal will mean. I'll see what the price is this year but I think we would have all been better off if the NFL opened up ST to cable and DTV had to actually compete for viewers.
The price has been out for months. $279.
I know that the NFL is the most popular sport, but even at half the price you are paying a lot more per game then other sports. Realistically, many subscribers are transplants that want to watch games from their original hometown. Or they hate their local losing team and pick another team to follow that is much better.
So you pay $379 for NFLST to get 16 games in HD which is roughly $24/game. With another sport like hockey, you can watch your favorite team play 82 games for roughly $2/game. So even at half the price, you would still be paying $12 per game or 6 times as much as hockey. So they would still be getting a premium for it.
I really hope D* starts losing a lot of NFLST subscribers this year. Then they will be forced to reduce the price or possibly offer a special with a better discount.
People hope this same thing every year, and it never happens.
Doubtful....but an interesting take on it.
Since its cited as one of the main unique services they offer....I would guess they'll continue to make it "inviting" through some means or another.
I'm going to call during or right around Draft Weekend and have it taken off my account - if they knock the price in half I'll keep it, but otherwise I'm done until the kids are out of middle/high school age and I have more Sundays at home again.
True, but the economy was much better in prior years. NFLST is a want, not a need. When it comes to cost cutting, people can live without it.
Does this mean the cost of ST will increase 43%?:eek2:
TV itself is a want too, but DirecTV's still making record numbers. And you can't forget the businesses, who pay much more than regular subscribers, and have no choice but to continue paying.
Yes, they are adding subscribers like me, who dropped cable last year to get more HD and save money. With the promotional offer for new subscribers, I'm saving approximately $500 my first year, over my costs for cable. So I can see why they are getting record numbers right now.
Most people will keep some type of programming so they have entertainment at home, but can drop the extras to save money. For example my promotional offer included 6 months of Showtime free. That just ended and I dropped it. If the economy doesn't improve by this September, you might see many subscribers doing what I did, cancelling the extras like their renewal for NFLST.