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DIRECTV and Tivo to Launch new HD DVR in 2010

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Tom Robertson, Sep 3, 2008.

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  1. Oct 7, 2008 #1481 of 3658
    bonscott87

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    My H21 was also effected. Not a DVR. ;)
     
  2. Oct 7, 2008 #1482 of 3658
    apastuszak

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    I had an R10 for 2 years without any issue, other than 2 spontaneous reboots.

    Andy
     
  3. Oct 7, 2008 #1483 of 3658
    ATARI

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    Apparently you missed Stuart's post?

    BTW -- my H20 was not affected (not a DVR)
     
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    CJTE

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    Mehh, I thought there were more posts/alternative dialog, but I didnt see it just now when I skimmed through.

     
  5. adam1115

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    Not missing recordings sure, but I remember about 4 months of audio dropouts and pops that made it not worth even using....
     
  6. LlamaLarry

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    What made them stop? A software update, change in equipment on your end, stopped using optical?
     
  7. tas3986

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    I have hr10's and a new hr21. The HR10's have a much better user interface. (At least, my wife understands it !! She is having trouble with the HR21.)

    The only feature of the HR21 that is better, is the use of NNOT, CCHAN,...., advanced keyword search items.

    I hope that the new system goes back to the old menu system, and please, do not come up with yet another remote control !:grin:
     
  8. inkahauts

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    Have you ever owend a non Tivo DVR before? If not, I think as time goes on, you'll adjust and find that the HR is actually far more flexible and easy to use, like one touch recordings... You have to just use it for a while, and in 6 months, you'll never want to go back to the tivo gui... Tivo has trained people to think they have to be spoon feed and treated like every time they use their dvrs is the first time they are ever using a dvr.. Trust me, you'll get past that... You should read this thread... they will help you a lot in using the HR2xs... Theres even a link to a tivo to HR survival guide...

    http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=72648
     
  9. loudo

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    I don't ever want to see another Guide with the horrible looks of the HR10-250.
     
  10. 1999cobra

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    If you want to see bad guide menus look at Comcasts junk ...

    As far as Tivo and D* DVR's I'll stick with D* won't cost me an extra fee every month and I won't have to shell out $650 on an initial buy in ...
     
  11. kiljoy

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    Maybe it's because I don't have an HR2x, but I just don't understand what this means. You mean like when you're in the guide and you press the record button to record a series (as in not just that showing, but set up a SL, one press of the record button on a show in the guide records it on the TiVo so there's no difference there)? Why would I want to ever use the guide on a DVR? I only see the guide maybe once or twice a year right now. (And I guess because I'm a TiVo fanboy, I should point out that grid-style guides are awful in my opinion.)

    Tony
     
  12. 1999cobra

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    As one that has had and still have three Tivo units (two still sitting on a shelf in my basement) and have, and have had D* DVR's and currently have these three in service as I type HR20-700, HR21-200, HR22-100 - I think I can speak with a little more authority than you when I say: "There isn't that much difference between a Tivo and a D* DVR to warrant the extra money spent for and to keep the Tivo service"

    I have also been an uninterrupted customer of D* since 1995 ... I have run in conjunction with D* Comcast cable and can say with authority that Comcast service, and equipment is PURE unadulterated JUNK ...
     
  13. Brennok

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    As someone who has 3 R15s which are no longer active, I also don't understand why one touch recording is such a big deal. Again I think it comes down to how you utilize a DVR. As someone who timeshifts everything, I have no use for one touch recording since I am never watching live tv and as a result never using the guide.

    I know eventually they are supposed to go away but as long as the D* DVR has a limit of 50 shows any extra cost imho balances out since for every 50 shows you want to record you need an additional DVR. Now if they do away with the limit before the Tivo rolls out as people keep predicting then obviously this will go back more to personal preference, but for now as long as their is a limit and you want to record more than 50 series you have to pay extra.
     
  14. paulman182

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    I know this question will seem silly to you guys, but I've never had anything but R15s and HR2xs. How do you guys select the show you want to record without bringing the guide up on the screen? How is it done?
     
  15. kiljoy

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    You just search for it and create the season pass. If you just want a particular showing, I guess you could go to the guide, use the feature that allows you to center the guide at the time/date/channel of your choosing, highlight the show, and then press the record button.

    Edit: Since I don't know how the HR2x searches, I'll describe the TiVo way. You can search two ways, via Title or Wishlist. For the purposes of this, I'm describing the Title. You go the Find Program screen and there's a box on the left with all the letters. You highlight and select one (no triple tap, which is a great idea BTW) and on the right everything in only the channels you receive that begins with that letter appear in alphabetical order. Select the next letter and the search narrows, and so on. Once you see your show to the right, use the right arrow to move the program list and hit select and you're taken to the Season Pass configuration screen.

    Wishlists allow you to specify genre (optionally) or actor, director, etc. and then a keyword. It then allows you again to only search the channels you receive for content containing that word and either auto-record it or just compile the data for you to search through. I only use this for following a sports team.

    I never go to live TV ever, and I never hit the guide button unless it's a rare program that I don't have any idea what the guide data would show (like, say, the presidential debates).

    I know what I want to see and haven't watched live TV since 2000 so all I do is go to the guide and set up a season pass and configure the features the way I want.

    Tony
     
  16. kiljoy

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    Figured I should reply to this post separately.

    All I wanted to know is what "one touch recording" is, since I can't think of a situation where I'd want or need any way to set up a recording that I don't already have and yet it's always cited as one of the things the HR2x does so much better than TiVo. If the answer to that question is, "STOP BASHING THE D* DVR ITS SO MUCH BETTER THAN TIVO GOD STOP ASKING" then okay, that sounds like a hell of a feature!

    Oh, and yes, I've read the TiVo Owner's FAQ and it still isn't clear. How does it work and why is it an advantage?

    I've been an uninterrupted DirecTV customer since 1997 so I'm sure your two years on me will definitely inform your response to a neophyte such as myself.

    Tony
     
  17. paulman182

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    Thank you, Tony, for your response.

    I would prefer the HR2x method as I do often use the guide. I seldom record series TV, almost all movies, and I use either a magazine or the on-screen guide itself to tell me what is going to be on when.
     
  18. bonscott87

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    If you're in the guide or any of the various search screens you simply hit the record button once and it's setup to record. Push the record button twice and it's a season pass. And you're done. That's it.

    On a Tivo it's much more convulted by selecting this and selecting that and please wait and please wait and selecting something else.

    So I can go to the guide on the HR2x, hit Info say on HBO channel number and get the entire guide data for just HBO up. Then I can quickly record a dozen movies in under a minute for the next 2 weeks. On a Tivo that would take you forever to do.

    Sure, if you don't ever set things to record then maybe you have no use for it. But one touch record is a feature of pretty much every single DVR out there except Tivo so it's something users come to expect. And while I don't personally use the guide that often or setup new things to record much other then when new series come up it sure is nice to do it in one or two keypresses. :D

    Not saying either is good or bad but I much prefer one button press to multiple and please waits. ;)
     
  19. paulman182

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    One-touch recording is very convenient for those of us who do use the guide, as you simply highlight a program in the guide, push "R" once to record that episode, or push "R" twice to set up a link for the whole series.

    EDIT: Oops, looks like Scott beat me to the answer!
     
  20. kiljoy

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    Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. I'm guessing there's a way to configure your default Season Pas-- uh, Series Links so that when you double-press record you're automatically choosing how many you're keeping, whether you want All or First Run, etc.? If so, you're right, for the channel surfer that is a pretty cool feature. I wouldn't use it, but I can definitely see why for some viewing patterns it's well-liked.

    Thanks again.

    Tony
     
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