DirecTV announces: Only 24hr use of PPV movies effective 4/15

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  1. gregjones

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    Maybe I'm a glass-half-full kind of person, but this is a specific issue. Turning on limits across the board for premium channels would definitely be a problem. This is an attempt to close a loophole. I don't believe the studios ever had the intention to allow the consumer to buy a movie permanently for a $5 price during the rental period.

    I understand people not liking that change but I do not understand the sense of righteous indignation. Granted, they allowed it to happen before and should not be surprised that it did. It's like complaining that something is no longer on sale for 66% off. Be glad it was good while it lasted. There are other means of seeing the same content if you prefer the price and conditions.
     
  2. spec2

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    That isn't how I read the announcement:

    Effective April 15, the guidelines for DVR Pay-Per-View movie recordings will change. Customers will still be able to enjoy the convenience and variety of PPV movie selection; however, they will only be available for viewing for 24 hours after the time of purchase.

    DTV is saying "time of purchase," not "from the time the movie is first played." So that would give AppleTV better terms. Not great ones, but better than DTV PPV.
     
  3. raott

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    Thanks for the lecture Dr. Phil. I work, my wife works. The window to watch a movie on a weeknight is about 4 hours max at night.

    Its about the convenience of not having to worry about watching it in one sitting if something comes up.

    I'm not distressed, D* simply won't get my money.
     
  4. DrJohnC

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    Is this just the beginning?
    Is this the dawn of the age of "non-storable" media?
    Watch once ... and pay. Watch again ... and pay.
    Just like a theatre: Pay to see Shrek 17. Go the next day and pay again.
    HD-DVD is dead. Blu-Ray is expensive. (I own both). Initial releases on Blu-Ray averages $30.00. Not good for the average "joe".
    What's the studio's next move? Limited viewing of content through other distribution channels (Internet, DirecTV, DISH, Cable, etc.). This may be the next thrust of home movie viewing which began with Betamax. Look at hardware such as Vudu, etc. Even if you "own" the content, it stays on the HDD (crashes, anyone?).
    I, for one, can wait. I still have over 3,500 Laserdiscs with content which just isn't available anymore ("Song of the South", e.g.) which I can watch anytime, day or night. Not so with the "new distribution channels". We'll just have to wait and see.
     
  5. jjohns

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    I also don't get the "own for $5" reasoning. The dvr is already restricted at the outputs making the copies inferior. If the high def version is stuck inside the dvr - is that really "owning it"? It just means you can watch it a few times or until your hard drive gets full - and that sure doesn't take long with the HD.
     
  6. gregjones

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    With a DVR, it is not purchased until you click to purchase it, which may be some time after recording it. For most people, it is not purchased until it is watched.
     
  7. JeffBowser

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    raott: I seem to have offended you - my comments were in general, not a personal attack on you, your personal attack on me is uncalled for.

    Gregjones: the problem with music is, if I lose my digital copy I have to buy another. At least with a CD, if I lose my digital copy, I can rip it again. For this reason, I will still buy a CD, unless the song is just a one-off from an artist I don't normally like.


     
  8. Araxen

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    Aye, Amazon MP3 Download service is what I use it is wonderful. MP3's with no DRM for $1 per song. It beats the pants off Itunes!
     
  9. tcusta00

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    it's too bad iTunes will most likely continue to get away with the inflated DRM-free prices too since they have such a lock on the mp3 hardware market and people automatically go there not knowing they have a choice.
     
  10. jjohns

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    This is a plain and simple wrong-headed decision.
    But the only way these fine upstanding corporations will acknowledge that is when they see it is costing them $$. By the time it hits their bottom line though, they have already ticked off their customers and drove a lot of them away. (See music industry)

    Unfortunately for these media companies, most consumers are not stupid. They know what the industry is trying to do and they don't like it. If the content providers continue down this same path, they will ultimately meet the same fate as the music folks.
     
  11. Richierich

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    Peachtree...
    I believe that as REVENUES fall because people fail to buy PPV they will see the error of their ways and change the way that they price & distribute content.

    The Music Business is in trouble. Country Music isn't what it was several years ago. Companies have to constantly watch what is going on in the marketplace and adapt or go out of business.

    AOL suffered that way. Alot of other companies have done so too.

    Give the consumers what they want if you want to stay in business.

    Have a tiered pricing system based on the number of days you want to keep the download such as Netflix does with the number of DVDs you can keep.

    Blockbuster lost my business to Netflix and apparently alot of BB customers did like I did. I was charged for a Late DVD many times when I had returned it on time but that didn't have time to check it in right then and WAM I got charged.

    So I said BYE BYE and went to Netflix and I have been happy ever since. I keep the DVD as long as it takes for me to watch and then send it back and get another one in the mail. Very simple & easy to do!!!
     
  12. fikuserectus

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    I will be less likely to purchase any PPV for this exact reason. The movie studio's wonder why people download movies illegally!!
     
  13. josejrp

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    Not to get too off-topic, but iTunes reduced their iTunes Plus pricing to 99 cents and is also DRM free. Per song, Amazon is probably cheaper, but I've found the album prices vary. iTunes also has things like videos and liner notes that are sometimes included with the album purchases that Amazon does not have.
     
  14. tcusta00

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    shows how much i use it! :lol:
     
  15. Drewg5

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    Looks like no more PPV for me, no big loss though I do have snail mail netlix
     
  16. gregjones

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    Last I checked, you could get 99 cent DRM music or some limited songs DRM-free at a higher price.
     
  17. Richierich

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    Peachtree...
    My Netflix is Lightening FAST!!! No More PPV for me for sure!!!

    Also, I just LOVE MY ITUNES!!!
     
  18. rcoleman111

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    Using your TV and DVR the way they were intended to be used isn't what most people consider a "loophole". That's the Hollywood point of view that goes back to the days when they tried to sue the VCR out of existence.
     
  19. EARTH2JUPITER

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    Hi! All,

    Just wanted to add my 2 cents, No more movie channels for me, with reruns of reruns, and just maybe the channel you are paying for is not showing that "new movie" you want to see, it's playing onanother movie channel.

    I upgraded to Netflix $13.99 month, 2 dvd's out at a time, new releases or old TV shows without commericals. I mail the one I've viewed and in 2 days have another. Much cheaper than paying for 4 movie channels or using $3.99 PPV for 24 hours.
     
  20. Skooz

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    Word.

    +1
     

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