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DIRECTV App / Jailbreak discussions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. Nov 1, 2011 #61 of 278
    Chris Blount

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    To get this thread back on track, remember, all discussion regarding the DirecTV app and jailbreaking is to stay in this thread. Please do not start new threads.

    Thanks.
     
  2. Nov 16, 2011 #62 of 278
    cypherx

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    Back to topic of the app...

    1.3.4 - blocked simple jailbreaking by removing the flags in the configuration file

    1.3.5 - supposidly blocks more advanced jailbreaking by working around the cydia patch.


    Just an FYI to those with JB. Don't update if you can manage at this time.

    Still waiting for a low level device driver to intercept JB detection and pass expected (non-jailbroken) results to the apps. This type of patch would cure all apps with JB detection... not just this one.

    I wouldn't be opposed to eliminating streaming IF the app detects you are JB. However disabling even the remote control aspect is a d**k move, DirecTV.
     
  3. Nov 16, 2011 #63 of 278
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    I'm more shocked they went further to block it in the manner they are using. Why the hell are they not just going the netflix route and encrypt it the same way they do?
    Makes no sense why they would go this direction and take the easy way to block it.

    I just can't see directv wanting to fight the rooting/JB group. Netflix saw the light and changed/adjusted and so should directv.
     
  4. Nov 16, 2011 #64 of 278
    Stuart Sweet

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    It's hard to know what the motivation is... but DIRECTV is known for their straightforward, conservative approach to DRM issues. I know that it was important to them to act quickly to address this, and they did.
     
  5. Nov 16, 2011 #65 of 278
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    Yeah. I just hope its a temp thing as they work on getting a solution comperable to netflix's.

    Too many people to go against and disrupt.
     
  6. Nov 16, 2011 #66 of 278
    DogLover

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    Netflix can encrypt the files beforehand. The steaming that the DIRECTV app does would require live encryption on the fly. That is likely more difficult than why Netflix has done.
     
  7. Nov 16, 2011 #67 of 278
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    Yeah i thought that before but coulda sworn someone said someone does it on the fly and its do able.
     
  8. Nov 16, 2011 #68 of 278
    cypherx

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    NDS, the supplier of the conditional access technology used by DirecTV does have solutions in place for secure adaptive internet streaming.

    The product is called VideoGuard Connect DRM.
    http://www.nds.com/Content_and_Service_Protection/VideoGuard_Connect_DRM/

    They have a whole suite of solutions to get your content "On any Device" Here is that portfolio:
    http://www.nds.com/Solutions/On_Any_Device/


    This would be the ultimate solution that benifits both the consumer AND DirecTV. Because the way it stands now, it's going to be an endless game of cat and mouse. I think that's too much burden that DirecTV should have to bear right now. Going forward with a proven solution from a vendor they already partner with sounds to me like the way to get this product back on track.

    In the mean time, perhaps they should separate the streaming app from the remote control app. At least maintain the basic functionality we've had since 1.0.0 to program the DVR, browse the guide and change channels from a second, non-interrupting screen.
     
  9. Nov 16, 2011 #69 of 278
    Stuart Sweet

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    Perhaps that would work out. I wonder how much it would cost DIRECTV to license.
     
  10. Nov 16, 2011 #70 of 278
    cypherx

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    Ooh, look what I found.

    Press release "DirecTV Selects NDS VideoGuard Connect"
    http://www.nds.com/Media_Center/Pre...rd_Connect_the_DRM_for_Multi-platform_Pay-TV/

    Quote from our friend Romulo
    “Our subscribers expect quality content and the best viewing experience from DIRECTV. We will use VideoGuard Connect’s highly secure DRM to ensure content producers and DIRECTV can support consumers’ growing desire for a video experience on multiple screens. VideoGuard Connect is a valuable addition to our portfolio of solutions from NDS”
     
  11. Nov 16, 2011 #71 of 278
    Stuart Sweet

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    Wow, you're good! Excellent find!
     
  12. Nov 16, 2011 #72 of 278
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  13. Nov 16, 2011 #73 of 278
    pacobell21

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    Hi All,

    New user here...joined up after I stumbled upon this thread. So as you might guess, I have a jailbroken iPad 2, and I accidentally updated the Directv app to 1.3.5, which doesen't work with the manual fix or the Cydia patch. My question is, would any of you know if there is any way i can get an older version of the Directv for iPad app IPA file (version 1.3.1 - 1.3.3) from anywhere so i can just roll back to an older version of the app? I could care less about the streaming to be honest, I just want to again be able to use the other fuctionalities that were always there. The latest version of the app on my copy of iTunes is 1.2.6 or some such, so I can't go that route, since it would just force me to upgrade anyway upon launching the app. Sigh. Any ideas? I'm really frustrated with this whole situation. Double sigh. :(
     
  14. Nov 16, 2011 #74 of 278
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    Haha thought I remembered reading this before! :)
    Wonder why its not being used really, or if it is then why the JB block still.....
    Maybe they wanna make sure they get whole app up and perfect before releasing it to the JB phones as no telling if bugs r bc of being JB or not?....total shot in the dark by me to.make sense of it now
     
  15. Nov 17, 2011 #75 of 278
    cypherx

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    The app now forces you to update when you launch starting today.

    If you block the connection to DirecTV's servers... the app never fully launches. It freezes on waiting for network.

    If you try to con 1.3.4 into thinking it's 1.3.5, it will say "An invalid version number detected. Please uninstall and reinstall application."

    If you try to mix and match key resources from 1.3.4 and 1.3.5, you get the classic IOS app crash (app launches and disappears right away).

    If you try to straight up run 1.3.5, current patches available to the JB community are no longer working.

    Looks like DirecTV is almost on the same level playing field as my cable operator. My local cable provider doesn't have an ipad app, and now, to me neither does DirecTV. So what do I get with DirecTV besides an HD GUI and less HD channels? Hmm... an iPad app sure would off been icing on the cake to make me renew next year. Going to have to rethink that harder next fall and see who offers what.

    Does anyone know if an Android port is coming out? I've had about enough of Apples dictatorship and wouldn't mind getting an Android tablet.
     
  16. Nov 18, 2011 #76 of 278
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    I've felt your pain in the past, and you have to keep one thing in mind, jailbreak was a choice and sometimes there is fallout for doing it.

    I'm not sure if an Android version is coming or not, but I'd bet real money that they will block rooted devices.

    An iPad like app for Android would be one of the apps that would push me to dump my iPad I'm going to wait until an ICS tablet catches ny eye. I'm done rooting.
     
  17. Nov 18, 2011 #77 of 278
    cypherx

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    I don't know if "rooting" an android is necessary. JB an iOS device just makes more sense because how hardcore the system is locked down.

    The only thing iOS has going for it is the extensive app library, which is why I have what I have.
     
  18. Nov 18, 2011 #78 of 278
    dualsub2006

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    Rooting is necessary if your carrier (like mine) sells you a phone pre-loaded with a bunch of constantly running crap that you can't uninstall.
    Google blocks their own video rental service of rooted devices and given what D* does on jailbroken iPads I won't be even a little surprised if they block rooted Android tablets too.

    Though I hear getting around root check is simple and "foolproof".
     
  19. Nov 18, 2011 #79 of 278
    Sgt. Slaughter

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    It should be in the mix, but don't expect anything till after you see ICS out for awhile. If I had to guess I'd say maybe 2nd qtr next yr is when they'll b an iPad equivalent on android.

    The thing with android and ICS there is a great way you can make 1app and publish it for small screens and tablets having it look different on both. Same exact apk for all kinds of screen sizes and the apk will determine the layout to use.

    With most androids being 4in plus now is say they should bring all features to phones on our side as the real estate is there.
    Android has always been backburner hence no nomad for android still....they can't ignore the market share jumps forever but that's the price you pay for going against the crowd early on.

    Now as far as rooting/JB blocking I'm going to take a stance and say they rolled it out in its current form to just make sure no kinks in it and also get it out while they work on the DRM aspect of it that will allow them to open it up to all devices JB or not. Just makes sense and there's too big of a community there to ignore, esp when the solution is there.

    Now they are conservative in approach as noted before, but if it comes to it they would hear enough noise/complaining to adjust like most companies do bc its smart $.
     
  20. Nov 18, 2011 #80 of 278
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    So I guess we are screwed now, until the JB community comes up with another fix.
    Screw You DIRECTV! All i want is the ability to watch a damn show on my iPad or computer at some point. Can't now with a JB iPad nor a Mac running DIRECTV2PC
     

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