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DIRECTV App / Jailbreak discussions

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by Stuart Sweet, Oct 27, 2011.

  1. dualsub2006

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    Unless you've developed an app, similar to the D* app that involves streaming content excluded by an IF statement, and had that app work without issue in same or similar fashion to the D* app, I'm going to ignore you declaration that it is "simple".

    I don't need you to remind me of this. When my iPad was jailbroken I had all three. It's not relevant to the D* app. Nobody is disputing that video streaming works on jailbroken iPads. That's where the discussion ends because D* doesn't allow it.

    Do you need me to remind you about the encryption that those three apps employ? I didn't think you did, I just wanted to check. And again, it's not relevant that HBO Go, MAX Go and Netflix have encryption. D* doesn't at this point and that's all that really matters.

    Can they add encryption? Yes. Will they add encryption? I'd say they will. Will they allow jailbroken iPads once they do? Maybe. Maybe not.

    Like you yourself said, you can't have your cake and eat it too. You want a jailbroken iPad, and you have it.
     
  2. dualsub2006

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    I never said that there was AN app that would steal the stream. I said there was A METHOD. Very Big difference.
     
  3. dualsub2006

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    I was curious, so I just did some reading about the method that Apple uses to block jailbroken devices from accessing purchased books from the iBooks book store.

    For me, it removes all doubt. You aren't speaking from experience and have no idea what you are talking about.

    It's not a simple if/then arguement, results are not persistent and the method is easily bypassed.

    I'll go out on a limb and predict that D* won't implement streaming exclusions based on jailbreak status detection under the current circumstances.
     
  4. cypherx

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    Streaming should be bundled into the Nomad app. That's what the app is for, streaming. Also if you don't have nomad, but use it just to stream live TV, maybe it will "up-sell" nomad to people who never heard of it.

    There's just no reason to block a DVR programming, remote control, guide viewing, sports score checking app from JB ipads.

    By the way the way DirecTv is checking for JB has been determined. A patch is sure to be released soon.

    Work is also being done on a package to thwart Jailbreak protection on a bigger scale, rather than requiring patching individual apps.

    DirecTV can keep wasting their time. It will be broken time and time again. I feel absolutely no remorse or one ounce of guilt for running the app on a Jailbroken iPad. I am not stealing anything.

    Though we fundamentally disagree on things, this back and forth has been fun. Happy Thanksgiving dualsub.
     
  5. dualsub2006

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    The Nomad app doesn't stream, it plays transcoded files, but I get your point.

    Now that D* has provided live streaming in the iPad app I'd have a real problem if the solution to this involved me having to download and use another app.

    And they didn't block JB iPads when the app did just those things.

    And to you and yours, Happy Thanksgiving.
     
  6. cypherx

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    I guess I'm just thinking instead of JB detection sending you to a "we do not support JB devices" message, it could set a flag in which first launch wouldn't even bring up this question regarding do you want to add streaming video. That way at least the original functions would work.

    Then if you tried to add streaming yourself, say "were sorry, due to restrictions set in place by content owners streaming is not available on a jail broken device."

    Basically just moving the message back a bit to block out the feature.
     
  7. dualsub2006

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    I'm stating this only from what I read yesterday: it doesn't work like that. At least, if it does, Apple doesn't use this method.

    All three articles that I read left me with the impression that iBooks has to run JB detection every single time you open a purchased book.

    I'm only guessing, but a JB user with little hacking experience would easily be able to remove that flag if your idea were possible and used.
     
  8. cypherx

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    I think iBooks drops an unsigned binary and if it can execute, bam... Jail broken (stock f/w won't run unsigned binaries). Tricky, but effective.

    Late binding objective C libraries can do just about anything to an app already resident in memory. How do you think I got that screenshot ;-)
     
  9. Gotchaa

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    As a long time customer of D* I am really unhappy to find that I no longer can use the app. The only solution is to release a remote only app IMHO, prior to the streaming introduction this was all most of us cared for. I have a sling box to stream, and it is not restricted. Please release a non streaming version that does not care what you do on your device. This just sucks "."
     
  10. gio12

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    never even hear of a method and I am SURE 99.9% of JB users have not either. I can set my ipHone/iPad on a tripod and recored any of directv's content. Then post on youtube, etc. if done right, it looks great. So, again what's the point with the JB thing, besides being a douche and upsetting customers?
    Again, do kill the app for one small feature. Anyways, a fix is under way and basically a permanent one form what I hear. All this crap, makes we want to steal the streaming shows now and paste them all over to send a point. :rolleyes::D
     
  11. Dec 1, 2011 #111 of 278
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    Finally a fix

    Xcon :sure:
     
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    dualsub2006

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    Cypherx, is that you getting your chops busted over at MMi? That individual is really busting balls on someone for having access to something that they didn't.

    I love reading people b**ch that they aren't getting someone else's hard work fast enough.

    The guy that did that thing isn't even a D* subscriber? I hope it does work for more than just this app.
     
  13. Dec 8, 2011 #113 of 278
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    And it also fixes the latest update after you reinstall it.
     
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    gio12

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    where? Cydia? name?
     
  15. Dec 8, 2011 #115 of 278
    Stuart Sweet

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    Let me remind you of the rules...

    You may:
    • Discuss the philosophical and legal aspects of jailbreaking or rooting.

    You may not:
    • Discuss how to jailbreak or root
    • Discuss how to hack apps to work with jailbroken or rooted hardware
    • Attack others who choose to exercise their legal right to modify purchased hardware
    • In any way discuss any violation of terms&conditions, customer agreements, or in any other way break forum rules.


    If you want to talk about xcon, you should probably go to private message.
     
  16. Dec 8, 2011 #116 of 278
    cypherx

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    Yeah guys, DirecTV employees read DBSTalk more than any other site. They'll just patch it faster!

    I've known about the fix for 1.3.5 (and now 1.3.6) for awhile now. I didn't want to say anything on here. That kind of info is better suited on an iphone/ipad specialized forum.

    Anyway, back to topic...
    Because with each version they change Jailbreak detection, but it gets broken again... I think they should just devote their time, money and energy into DRM'ing the streaming functions so that it's a moot point if the device is JB. A DRM stream (ala Netflix, HBOGo, MaxGo) is more secure than releasing a new version of the app. DirecTV just inconveniences everyone because they force the download on people for no real feature improvements. Then it gets 'fixed' by the community shortly after anyway.

    If anyone is upset with DirecTV, I would suggest contacting them Directly and expressing your concern that Jailbreaking is legal and the app will not work on your device. Then use your noggin and google how to get around it.
     
  17. Dec 8, 2011 #117 of 278
    gio12

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    I did send a very nice and well thought out email.

    its nice to have my iPad app back. Now, if it would only stream LIVE tv like the new Cox app. :soapbox::icon_dumm
     
  18. Dec 8, 2011 #118 of 278
    dualsub2006

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    The 38 channels of live streaming in the D* iPad app is somehow worse than the 35 channels of live streaming in the Cox app?
     
  19. Dec 8, 2011 #119 of 278
    cypherx

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    I thought the DirecTV app did stream live tv...

    Cox app is fixed too with the same patch.
     
  20. Dec 9, 2011 #120 of 278
    TBlazer07

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    This thread is starting to remind me of Abbot and Costello's "who's on first" routine. :lol:
     

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