Directv/AT&T - Disney/ESPN Carriage Renewal

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  1. Sep 12, 2019 #61 of 295
    bjoe

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    Most MNF football games are broadcast locally OTA in the team market - I think WPIX got or is in the process of getting sold to Scripps as Nexstar had to divest as a condition of them buying Tribune.

    In CLE, WKYC carries the game OTA as well and they are TEGNA, so neither local OTA would get caught up in a Disney blackout of ESPN this Monday.

    The Mouse only owns 8 local ABC stations and 2 are non-NFL cities (Fresno and Raleigh)

    Later-Season Local OTA MNF could be impacted if (LA, SFO, Chicago, Philly, or Houston) are locally on the Disney OTA station. Since Jets are WPIX, I guess that leaves the possibility of Giants if WABC shows MNF locally for them.
     
  2. Sep 12, 2019 #62 of 295
    SamC

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    IIRC, part of Hearst's 20% ownership of ESPN is that Hearst stations get first refusal on the local showing of an ESPN game. They own stations in NFL cities of Boston, Tampa, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Cincinnati, Kansas City, New Orleans, along with Milwaukee, which I think counts for a local broadcast of Packer games.

    In any event, the answer is that a Disney "blackout" would not affect a local ABC station that is not owned by Disney, nor would it affect a local market rebroadcast of the ESPN MNF game on a non-Disney owned station, regardless of that station's affiliation.
     
  3. Sep 12, 2019 #63 of 295
    carlsbad_bolt_fan

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    Well, I’ll just set up an account with Youtube TV if ESPN/Disney goes dark.

    My kids watch The Disney stuff & I watch a lot of ESPN.
     
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  4. Sep 12, 2019 #64 of 295
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    I've got more bad news. Yahoo View has closed.

    Closed in June
     
  5. Sep 12, 2019 #65 of 295
    Steady Teddy

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    Hope I’m wrong but the longer this drags on it could be a CBS type scenario. We could go a week or two without College Football from “The Worldwide Leader”. Again, hope I’m wrong.
     
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  6. Sep 12, 2019 #66 of 295
    techguy88

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    I'm hoping this ends up more like the Viacom and A&E Network situations where the channels were not pulled. House of Mouse seems to be better at getting extensions with other providers and I am hoping the case is the same here that Deathstar and Mouse can agree on an extension while they negotiate. Although unlike the FX Networks that Dish and Mouse are currently negotiating over ESPN is the big ticket item here which has me worried.
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    I think a good idea would be to periodically check the Kids Mix Channel on 199. Right now Disney Junior and Disney East are still on there however if we look back at the Viacom dispute they didn't include Nickelodeon.

    If we see Deathstar replace Disney Junior and Disney East with other channels like Universal Kids and Cartoon Network West that would be a good indicator we are in trouble here.

    Now that Boomerang is in all packages I could also forsee AT&T giving freeviews of Nick Jr., Universal Kids and/or Nicktoons to make up for the loss of Disney Junior, Disney East & West and Freeform. That's just my opinion here.

    TL;DR if the Kids Mix Channel gets reshuffled to omit Disney channels we most likely will be screwed.
     
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  7. Sep 12, 2019 #67 of 295
    Athlon646464

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    If Disney wants subs for it's new streaming service, well, what would you do?
     
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  8. Sep 12, 2019 #68 of 295
    psunate77

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    Awful Announcing is saying ESPN and Disney stations will go dark at Midnight on Friday.

    This will be the last straw with DTV
     
  9. Sep 12, 2019 #69 of 295
    glrush

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    To be clear, the reporting is that the Disney channels *could* go dark at midnight on Friday. There could be a long term deal signed, or an extension.
     
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  10. Sep 12, 2019 #70 of 295
    psunate77

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  11. Sep 12, 2019 #71 of 295
    psunate77

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    Do you think they care about subscribers threatening to cancelling or boycotting?? Until people do it’s not going effect them
     
  12. Sep 12, 2019 #72 of 295
    glrush

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    Yup....barring a last minute agreement it'll expire. And it ain't the last minute, yet. Your post says "Awful Announcing is saying ESPN and Disney stations will go dark at Midnight on Friday." That is incorrect. They are saying, absent an agreement or an extension, they could be pulled as early as Friday.
     
  13. Sep 12, 2019 #73 of 295
    TheRatPatrol

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    I don’t know, let’s ask John Quinones.
     
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  14. Sep 12, 2019 #74 of 295
    techguy88

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    To be honest if you have stuck around for all the previous negotiations might as well stick around for this one. Usually the Disney negation is towards the end of the pack while the Viacom usually is at the beginning. They don't have to worry about Time Warner (cause they bought them). The only ones left that I haven't heard anything about would be AMC Networks and Discovery Networks. Aside from a few smaller disputes (like the smaller market locals, Altitude Sports) AT&T seems to have gotten through most of their big ones and Disney is the last of the mega big negotiations this round (because of ESPN).

    Well if we recall what happened with the Pineapple under the Sea (Viacom) they actually went past their deadline with no announcement while the messaging continued until the two sides made a public announcement the next day they agreed to an extension to hammer out a deal. So even if we hit the deadline on Friday there could be a very slim chance this could happen with the Mouse as well.

    Although they must have gotten new monkeys to black out the messages because they are on point this time or Disney isn't giving them much of a challenge. Unlike with the Viacom negotiations where it would go a few seconds before black bars & black boxes would appear the Deathstar is on point with the ticker. I've been watching the Overwatch League on ESPNews and the black bars on the ticker on like synced on point with the messages. I wonder if the Mouse will start rotating the messages around the screen to make it harder on to black out?
     
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  15. Sep 12, 2019 #75 of 295
    stoutman

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    Don’t forget Sinclair is ongoing right now.
     
  16. Sep 12, 2019 #76 of 295
    Steady Teddy

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    I’ve lost track of how many comments I made on Twitter the last couple of days regarding this dispute. Not necessarily directly at D*, but just mentioning them when it came to upcoming programming this weekend.
    I received a DM from DirecTv tonight stating they were “here to help” and to contact them via AT&T chat or a direct extension.
    I asked them what this was regarding they said they wished to talk to me immediately, via chat or phone.
    From the phone conversation (not verbatim), the rep said they are reaching out to all concerned customers and someone from another department would call me back in the near future. “Regarding what”, I asked. It was to talk about the current situation with ESPN.
    I asked him specifically if they were contacting everyone who voiced their concern about losing ESPN on Twitter. “Yes sir”.
    Well, OK then
     
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  17. Sep 12, 2019 #77 of 295
    techguy88

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    The sidecars or the O&Os? The sidecars are in mostly in smaller markets and I haven't seen any messaging on my local Sinclair O&O (WCHS-ABC)
     
  18. Sep 12, 2019 #78 of 295
    RVD26

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    So I just found out about this dispute today while watching ESPN.
    Do people here think ESPN will actually go dark or do they get a deal done at the last minute?
    I would be royally pissed if I'm unable to watch college football this weekend.
    ESPN is one of the few channels I actually watch on a regular basis.
     
  19. Sep 12, 2019 #79 of 295
    techguy88

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    Really its up in the air at this point. AT&T was able to reach last minute deals with Viacom and A&E Networks but had the 3 week blackout with CBS. I'm hoping they will reach a deal at the last minute (like they did with Viacom and A&E).
     
  20. Sep 12, 2019 #80 of 295
    psunate77

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    Wouldn’t shock me if it goes dark. If it does it will be resolved next week due to cancellations.
     

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