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Directv CEO Says Possible Merger with Dish "Could Be Pro-Consumer"

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by DMRI2006, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. raott

    raott Hall Of Fame

    Nov 23, 2005
    I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of pricing restrictions in any merger. However, we all know how well that worked out for subscribers of Sirius and XM.
  2. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Perhaps you could cite an example of an entertainment media/medium merger/acquisition that wasn't ultimately a downer for consumers.
  3. zimm7778

    zimm7778 Hall Of Fame

    Nov 11, 2007
    I wasn't a sub then but was Directv's acquisition of Primestar really a bad thing at the time? I mean looked at with total negativity?
  4. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    This would would be great for Dish customers. They'd get to experience what it's like with a superior company like DirecTV. It would also put 1/3 of the nation's attorneys out of work without the Dish Network endless legal parade.
  5. Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    Sep 3, 2004
    1) Atlantic Records being purchased by Warner Bros. in 1967. It gave Ahmet Ertegun the structure and the money to take his R & B label to the next level. It's hard to imagine he could have signed either Led Zepellin or the Rolling Stones without the purchase. Read "The Last Sultan" by Robert Greenfield for a great book on Ertegun.

    2) Pixar's purchase by Walt Disney Corporation in 2006. It gave Pixar the capital to expand the number of films they could put out and a permanent distribution deal. Before the purchase, their distribution deal with Disney had soured.

    3) The 2002 purchase of the Boston Red Sox by New England Sports Ventures and John Henry. I don't think you can argue against the success of World Series Championships in 2004 and 2007 after decades of frustration. We'll see if the same group can also revive the Liverpool F.C. from years of poor play. They purchased Liverpool in 2007.
  6. wilbur_the_goose

    wilbur_the_goose Hall Of Fame

    Aug 16, 2006
    I still firmly believe that Echostar would be the company in charge. Just think of why you didn't go with E* and you'll see what I'm fearing.
  7. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    Echostar and Dish Network split into two separate companies nearly five years ago.
  8. hdtvfan0001

    hdtvfan0001 Well-Known Member

    Jul 28, 2004

    With you being a Dish customer, I would have thought you'd be able to cite Echostar's purchases of DISH Network, Hughes networks, Move Networks, and other stellar examples. :rolleyes:
  9. archer75

    archer75 Godfather

    Oct 13, 2006
    Having had both, and now with direct tv I can say that without a doubt I prefer Dish. The regular out of contract price I was paying with Dish was lower than my 1st year promo price with direct. I also like aspects of Dish's receivers better. Though Direct's receivers do have some nice features.

    I'm not sure i'd be a fan of a merger. I could only see prices going up and for many people cable is not an option and the new combined sat company wouldn't have to work as hard to retain you as you'd have no where else to go. At least with the both of them I can threaten to go to the other and usually get the deal I want.
  10. n3ntj

    n3ntj Hall Of Fame

    Dec 18, 2006
    I believe that we need separate competing satellite and cable cos. to be more consumer friendly and lower prices.
  11. mnassour

    mnassour Icon

    Apr 23, 2002

    That's right, after the Sirius/XM merger choice on the XM side went up and rates went down.

    Oh....wait a minit........

    Please, look at merger after merger after merger.....that "wide revenue stream" flows right from our pockets into those of the investors.

    I lived through Sirius' destruction of XM. No offense, but I'm tired of those (not you) who would piss on my shoes and tell me it's raining.
  12. oldcrooner

    oldcrooner Godfather

    Feb 23, 2004
    Very well and accurately put. Of course, the usuals will pretend that this does not describe the benevolent Directv and Dish companies. :rolleyes:
  13. VLaslow

    VLaslow Active Member

    Aug 16, 2006
    I'd like to think that, sooner or later, price increases can't continue as the customers will simply fade away. Even though we haven't seen it yet on a broad scale, there is a limit to what people can, and will, pay.

    The Sirius/XM deal took two failing ccmpanies and made one failing company. That's not the situation with Dish and DirecTV. But, never underestimate the capabilities of a good lobbyist.
  14. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    So you don't have any examples of mergers (as opposed to acquisitions of satellite bandwidth) to support your claim? I was kinda suspicious that you didn't believe what you posted.

    BTW, as Hoosier205 accurately pointed out, Echostar didn't purchase DISH. Spinning off Echostar put Echostar in a better position to do STB business with DISH competitors.
  15. Richierich

    Richierich Hall Of Fame

    Jan 10, 2008
    But if the Merger between Dish and Directv goes thru then Harsh would be justified with his Posting on the Directv side of DBSTALK because he then would be a Directv/Dish Customer so Directv Posters could no longer poke fun at him for posting on the Directv side of DBSTALK!!! :lol:
  16. Hoosier205

    Hoosier205 Active Member

    Sep 3, 2007
    NOOOOOOO! :)
  17. Diana C

    Diana C Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

    Mar 30, 2007
    New Jersey
    Mr White can think whatever he wants, but he's dreaming if he thinks this deal is any more likely to be approved than it was last time. Unlike the Sirius/XM deal (and the Sprint/Nextel deal) both DirecTV and Dish Network are financially healthy and vibrant companies. There is no consumer benefit to be gained from a merger of the companies, other than a reduction in operating costs.

    The problem with even that benefit is that it is unlikely to have much, if any, effect on customer's bills. The majority of our monthly bill is driven by programming costs, not operating costs. Anyone who thinks that a combined Dish/DirecTV would have more leverage with content providers is dreaming. Even if they kept every current subscriber (and assuming there are not many subscribers to both) they'd have about 34 million subs, making them about 50% larger than the current #1 Comcast (which, at 22 million is about 50% larger than #3 Dish Network separately). But has Comcast's larger size made them able to hold the line on costs any better than Dish? Not for one minute.

    In terms of subscriber savings, even if ALL the cost savings were passed on, a merger might mean an annual increase of $1.95 per month instead of $2.00. Hardly enough to overcome antitrust and bandwidth monopoly concerns.
  18. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Not to mention the cost of merging technologies. They can't even afford to shut down mpeg2 SD today, who says they'd have any gain in merging two companies using completely different technologies. The cost savings comes down to things like Human resources and some other functions that would save money.

    The cost savings is a mirage.
  19. Christopher Gould

    Christopher Gould Icon

    Jan 14, 2007
    But does comcast negotiate as 22 million customers or does it do it by area since all channels aren't available in all areas?
  20. Shades228

    Shades228 DaBears

    Mar 18, 2008
    The cost savings would be more in the future of contract negotiations and reduced SAC costs. Would the bills go down? No but they may not rise at a steady 3-4% a year either.

    If either company had regional pricing then there would be a lot more of concern with price fixing but both companies have national pricing. The people with 6 options have the same cost as the people with 2. Now some loss would be the people with 2 options right now being able to "threaten" to leave to get discounts but eventually this "business model" will evolve and the discounts won't be as they are today.

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