DIRECTV Cinema Field Trial, Week 3 (6/11) - Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'DIRECTV - Cinema Field Trial (private)' started by Greg Alsobrook, Jun 10, 2010.

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  1. Mike Bertelson

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    I agree; that's definitely annoying. :(

    It is a field test so it's likely to be fixed. :)

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  2. Blurayfan

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    IIRC this was posted as an issue while MRV was in developement and PPV recordings were viewable. Users were reporting not getting the purchase prompt and worried that the movie would be charged without consent. It appears DirecTV decided to block PPV from MRV until purchased at the server to resolve the non prompt issue.
     
  3. Golfman

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    IMO the movie should not be shown as recorded until it's completely and successfully recorded. In other words if it starts to record at 9:00 and completes in 1 hr 57 min then it wasn't recorded at 9:00 it only started to record then. It wasn't recorded completely and successfully until 10:58 at the earliest if its recorded at the same rate as it plays back.

    I had one movie that didn't show up in the PLAYLIST until ~ 3 hrs after it was shown as being recorded and it wasn't a 3 hr long movie.
     
  4. Golfman

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    I've had the same problem. In several cases I had to crank the volume setting up over 100% of where it's normally set for viewing and then I paused the movie in the credits and cranked it back down before switching back to normal viewing.
     
  5. DanER40

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    Watched To Paris With Love and everything went perfectly. The movie was not bad if you like a lot of action.
     
  6. LarryFlowers

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    I haven't experienced any audio issues to date, but I am paused at the moment.. I figured the first batch of credits is due shortly and it will finance the balance of my movie testing...:D
     
  7. Blurayfan

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    The recorded time displayed is the start time of the program. For example if you record your favorite 8PM tv show that last 1 hour. It will be shown as recorded at 8:00, it would be inaccurate to display it recorded at 9:00 since it wasn't on a 9PM.
     
  8. Golfman

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    These are PPVs not regularly scheduled programs. They are not viewable as far as I know until they are completely recorded. The user doesn't schedule them only enters them in the QUEUE. I can view a regularly scheduled program anytime once it shows in the PLAYLIST and that normally is as soon as it starts to record. These PPVs, unlike regularly scheduled shows, don't show in the PLAYLIST until they are finished recording and in my view it's inaccurate to show them as recorded several hours before they are viewable.
     
  9. paulman182

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    Since these movies start recording at, say, 10AM and finish at, say, 11:40AM, I'd say the start time of the recording is the most acceptable time to list.

    I have never heard the time of a recording stated in terms of its end time, in all my years of owning VCRs/DVRs or my 35 years of broadcast experience.
     
  10. Golfman

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    Well the promised credits showed up on my account today so that seems to be working as promised. It included the PPV charge and the state tax.
     
  11. Go Beavs

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    So is this just a matter of adding a prompt to the client side of things? On the surface that doesn't seem like too tall an order, but I'm not a code guy just a tester. :)
     
  12. geaux tigers

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    I watched Edge of Darkness and the picture and sound was excellent with no pixelation. It was viewed in 1080p and I used MRV to watch it because my HR20-700 connected to my main theater was replaced with an HR24-500 that does not have a CE download and I did not register it to be used as a DVR in the test as I did not have it at the time. I sent a request to have it registered in the test but I have not heard back from Greg yet.
     
  13. Grentz

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    Still waiting for a movie to download. Have a bunch in my queue.
     
  14. paulman182

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    Nothing has downloaded yet on one of my DVRS included in the test, although I've watched, been charged, and been credited for movies on my other one.
     
  15. Mike Bertelson

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    I now have downloads on both my test DVRs.

    Is it a download, a push, just a real time recording? :scratchin

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  16. Grentz

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    Finally have one that downloaded!
     
  17. DogLover

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    I would imagine that it's more complicated than that, or they would have done this already. Which access card does the purchase get listed on, the client or server? If you use the client access card to list the purchase, is that confusing when the show is on the hard drive and history list of the server? Which spending limit is used, client or server?

    That said, I think it is worth it for DirecTV to work through these issues to make this process more seamless. If you could both queue a movie to download, and purchase a downloaded movie from non-DVR, that would increase the usefullness of this service and the usefullness of MRV.

    (And by extension I would hope that you could at least purchase a downloaded movie from any DVR as well. Then, whenever they add remote setting/management of recordings for DVR to DVR, they could also add remote access to another DVR's queue.)
     
  18. Golfman

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    That's because in all those years you were only dealing with recording scheduled broadcast programming where it makes sense to associate the start time with the recording. Also note that with both the GUIDE scheduled recordings and the DOD QUEUED recordings on D* DVRs they can be selected and viewed as soon as they start to record.

    In the case of these QUEUED PPVs, they are not scheduled to record at a particular time by the user and when I as a user see a selection I've requested to be recorded via the QUEUE mechanism listed as recorded, lets say at 9:00am, and it's not available in the PLAYLIST for several more hours I think that's confusing. Especially if I'm paying $5.99 + tax for it. When the unit tells me the selection is recorded at 9:00am I want to be able to view it at 9:00am not have to mentally add the length of the recording to the time the recording begins and then start looking in the PLAYLIST for it to magically pop up.

    Maybe the PLAYLIST display for these QUEUED PPVs should be similar to the display that pops up for the DOD QUEUED or GUIDE scheduled PPV items when they start to download.
     
  19. matt

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    I have a lot going on this week, but I will be back to movies hopefully Friday :D

    I received my credits for my "time without service" :lol:
     
  20. Go Beavs

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    My $.02...

    Use the client's access card and spending limits, similar to how parental controls work.

    I don't think the average user will care where it was recorded, just where they are watching it from so I think if they "purchase" the movie from the client, they would expect it to be listed there. This seems the most logical thing and least confusing to most people.

    Spending limits should also be from the client because you don't want a receiver (or DVR) in the kid's room to be buying all sorts of PPV. :eek2:

    D* seems to want MRV'd shows to be indistinguishable from local shows and I think this service should be the same.

    There are probably thinks I'm overlooking though but it's still early. :)
     
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