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Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Athlon646464, Sep 25, 2013.
Or, to keep fees from going up even higher than they otherwise would have.
Okay... So, what ever happened to 're-adding' OTA tuners to the stable of DVR's and receivers? (presumably something with the 'power' of new design tuners like what's in current HD-TV sets, all of which today are 2-3+ generations ahead of the tuners that were in DTV STB's a few years ago).
THIS is the (okay, sans Disney/ESPN!) the biggest and certainly most contentious fee pressure being added. Way back before DTV added the HD locals, I spent good money putting a top of the line 'fringe' VHF/UHF antenna on my roof, with which my HDTV sets 'pull in' all the 'local' digital stations (between 35-45 miles distant, some of whom 'aim' their signals in the opposite direction from where I live) but where only one DTV STB (a H20-100, btw) is the only DTV STB that can get 'almost' all of them. The DVR sets with a built-in tuner (HR20-100's) barely get 2 or 3 of those channels.
Like I said, a few months ago there was a press release I read from DTV that they were going to put the tuners back in their sets; what happened?
No action means you're at the mercy of these folks.
When exactly did anyone say that?
more like the people paying full price are paying the freight for the folks getting discounts.
That's interesting that the HR20 is so much different from the H20, I would think the tuner would be similar. You sure your HR20 isn't just defective?
Directv did say something to the effect of improving their OTA solutions, but 1) assuming they follow through and 2) assuming the way they plan to do that is by bringing back OTA tuners in receivers/DVRs, it isn't something they'd be able to do in a few months. Even if the CEO ordered their engineers to get to work on that very same day, you'd be lucky to see availability of such products within a year from today. It isn't like there's an open spot in the current receivers where the tuner would go, and they just need to add one step on the manufacturing line. They'd have to do a completely new design. They don't make their receivers, so they'd have to provide a new reference design to their manufacturers, and they'd have to tool up to make them.
The H20-100 is from the same 'era' as the HR20-700 (which had an off-air tuner a bit better than the HR20-100's), but it has since gone the way of the landfill. I actually had a H20-600 that also 'bit the dust' about 2 years into service, and got replaced by DTV by the H20-100; the off-air tuners were about the same.
Actually, what they need to do (since all the newer DVR's don't have OTA capability) the best thing to do is to come out with a new version of the AM21, complete with the ability to 'scan' rather than rely on the (usually suspect) downloaded guide data, with, of course, the newest tuner tech. My newest tv (Samsung 60" 2012 plasma) gets every single station within 100 miles, including a station 180deg from where my antenna is pointed (a UHF about 50 miles away). This is the kind of performance any decent receiver should have, and what DTV should be aiming for.
You can look at this in two ways..
1.. Via your wallet
2.. Via your emotions
You can look at your bill and see dollar $, and then look to competitors and see what they have to offer..
But then you need to dig deeper and see if the grass is indeed greener on the other side of the fence.. How many of their customers are just waiting out their contracts before they jump ship.
I have had both systems, and in my case while Direct may cost a little more, will STAY in my house. Dish will never darken my door again..
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Yep, every year the price goes up and it's headline news. It will go up next year too.
My bill will go down , because I'm going call and Bit#$, or I'm lowering my packages.
I don't give a crap whos fault it is , I pay Directv to not have to worry about whose fault it is.
Sorry besides our cell phones, our Directv bill rises more then any other bill in my house, by far.
Electric bill right now is down every month this year from last year by 15%.
Car insurance , has only gotten lower in the past 5 years. Went from $2500 in 2005- $1550 this year That's with full tort and 250 deductibles on 3 full coverage cars
Property and school tax sure up about 20% percent in the past 5 years.
Directv had that almost beat with its 14% increase hit I took this spring alone.
My household bills per month
Property and school tax $242
Cell phone bill $240 for 4 smart phones unlimited talk and text,6 GB
Directv $152 for 4 rooms DVR HD, Choice Extra HBO, Starz, Free Max and taxes and fees.
Electric Bill $145 average per month
Car insurance $130 3 full coverage
Homeowners insurance $123
Internet $58 10 MBPS
Gas bill $25
Incorrect. It was not to add incremental costs and try to contain price increases for customers. I'm not sure where anyone said to keep at current level. Prices change based on all programming, not driven just by one network. Viacom costs still going up, Disney up, Fox up, CBS up, AMC up, etc, etc, each and every year.
D* has offered to carry the Pac 12 since day one, but to customers that actually want it and are willing to pay for it. Too many customers don't want it, don't want to pay for sports and the much higher costs that they charge, but the Pac 12 wants the eyeballs as well.
Good for you.....you are one of the lucky ones.
On average, electricity bills in this country up $300 the last 5 years. http://business.time.com/2011/12/16/plugged-in-then-pay-up-electricity-costs-rise-300-in-5-years/
Gasoline prices last 5 years up significantly (though flat the last 2 years)
Medical....same. Auto insurance...same
Its 2013 and
OH wow a $5 per month increase over 5 years. Directv does that in one year!
$300 isn't jack considering we plug in way more items then we did 7 years ago.
And where does this research come from?
Why don't you list Directvs prices 7 years ago? :sure:
I bet Directv went up more then $300 on average over 5 years too.
Why does D* think it should have a completely different deal than ALL the other carriers who have agreed to carry the NET?
We've been told that ala carte pricing would kill the industry, but it's ok when D* thinks its different from all the other carriers.
Sat, come on, you know that we all pay for hundreds of channels we never watch, but to do so helps keep everyone's costs down.
Mine won't be going up a dime...I think I'll drop Directv, I watch so few channels as it is. I can go with OTA for locals and get the MLB baseball package and be satisfied with that. I can't see paying $100 a month for a small handful of channels.
They don't want a completely different deal. They don't want to carry it on one of their basic tiers, which plenty of cable companies don't do for Pac 12. Cox doesn't serve where I live but they do a half hour north. I checked their lineup, and Pac 12 is part of the "sports and information pack", not the basic tier. BTN is on the basic tier, but this is Iowa, of course they are. I'm sure Cox has Pac 12 as part of the basic tier on the west coast, where there would be much more demand for it.
Problem is, Directv is national, so the only way they have to offer a channel as part of a basic package in one region but not in others is to make it an RSN, which the Pac 12 apparently doesn't want. They want the treatment BTN got from Directv, and to be part of a basic tier nationwide. Directv may regret having done that for BTN now that everyone else is starting their own network, and may not be so willing to give them the same deal when the contract is up in a year or two. But if they give Pac 12 that deal there is no way BTN will accept anything less, and they'll end up with every conference network on the basic tier and fees for everyone, including those who don't care about sports at all, let alone the Pac 12 or B1G, will skyrocket.
Directv wants less sports on their basic tiers, not more, and so do the half of their customers who don't watch sports. Someday a provider is going to fight this battle with ESPN and try to push that into a separate sports tier. Probably won't be Directv, but I could see a cable company that is in competition with other cable companies in the same area might be willing to lose the other Disney owned channels during a prolonged battle but be able to offer far lower prices for packages that don't include the ESPN channels and win a lot of the customers who don't care about sports and would be happy to save a lot of money.
I'm not naive enough to be surprised at this. I'm not even arguing that it's them being greedy or the content providers forcing their hand.
The reality though is, as much as I like my TV watching, there's going to come a point where the cost of service from DTV is too much to bear. I'm already at $110/mo and each time another increase comes I have a discussion with myself. One day, maybe soon, that discussion will end with me deciding that the cost is too high for what I'm getting.
I see a number of posts complaining about how high their bills have gotten, but only 1 or 2 have talked about trimming their package, or dropping entirely..
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I have Total Choice Plus + HD + DVR and I passed on all the other features like Genie / MRV / VOD / PPV / sports packages / movie channels because of the cost. Not into sports, so I don't care about that. Not gonna pay an extra $3/mo for the Genie for one TV. Movie channels are worthless, all the movies are online now. PPV I used to order in the $3.99 / $39.99 range... not $7 / $65... would not even do the 4/40 now... all that stuff is online for free / much, much, cheaper.
I have been with Directv since 1994.I have Choice Xtra Classic i lost my $10 HD called to try to get it back only got $5 credit for 3 months.I finally got rid of my cell phone with AT&t after 15 years and that unbundled my account so i lost $5 on at&t side for Directv and $5 on the Directv side for Having At&t bundled. I have a R16-300 in 1 bedroom and a HR21-100 in the living room no whole home. Put a fork in me i am about done with Directv to my bill has climbed to $98.74.Don't get me wrong i love my Directv but for what we watch i am looking into other options already have outdoor antenna and dish and timewarner sending me offers every week.I know i could save alot in the first year with either one.Directv seems to not want to keep their long term subscribers.I do understand everything goes up but for me the value of what we watch compared to what Directv is asking for a month is way off.
take that bet, by your reasoning my Directv bill should be 409.00 a month if it went up more then 300.00 over 5 years, I eft payment to directv of 109.00, in looking back over the bills for the last few years a total of 11.82 cents difference, now I look at my water and sewer, 01/15/2013 the bill was 203.62, the bill for 09/15/2013 was 314.89