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Directv DECAs and Internet

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Connected Home' started by scuba629, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. The Merg

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    I'm not sure that I'm following you here. Are you asking if you need to have a gigabit switch to use DECA for your home network? If so, the answer is no. It will work on a 10/100 network.

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  2. scuba629

    scuba629 Cool Member

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    are the parts I listed above correct?
     
  3. Rickt1962

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    Great ! I have 2 hr21 and plan on getting HR34 and I can run cat 5 wire to all locations. No need for Deca ! Yahoo !
     
  4. The Merg

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    You do realize though that with DECA you don't need to run CAT5 wire to all your locations. You could just have the CAT5 cable going to the HR34 and with that all the other receivers would all have access to the Internet, your home network, and Whole Home. This would also keep all of the Whole Home traffic off of your home network.

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  5. scuba629

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    seems like this thread has been hijacked! rofl!
     
  6. Vin

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    Well, you'll still be on your DECA cloud which may or may not impact your WHDVR service (I haven't had any issues with a similar arrangement but that's no guarantee). With that said, I don't think you need to replace your white DECAs but if you're looking for the latest model, it's this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-...892?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ccde7bf8c

    It can also be purchased with a power supply and used as a BB DECA : http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-DirecTV...913?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cccf20a1

    The older BB DECA that you linked to (also available on ebay) with the green label splitter will work fine though with your HR24.
     
  7. scuba629

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    Thanks Vin! Didn't know the BB DECA I listed was old. Looked newer than I had before...

    I just want to be sure that if i split the signal again I wont have issues. Right now it comes from the dish to an 8 port splitter. That 8 port splitter has a SWM, dish, and 4 DVRs on it. So 6 of the 8 ports are in use. I want to use the splitter I listed above to split it once more.

    Is that ok?
     
  8. Vin

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    I can't imagine it being an issue.
     
  9. scuba629

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    ok. some guys at solidsignal said I couldn't do it. However the other guys at weakness said I could. lol

    Just trying to get a good answer. lol
     
  10. Vin

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    What exactly are they saying you can't do? :confused:
     
  11. scuba629

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    add another splitter. They said I can only have 1 splitter from the dish.

    He continued on to say if I wanted another connect at my HR24 I needed to run it from the 8 port splitter.

    Right now its going from the DISH to an 8 port splitter. 4 DVRs, a SWM and my Dish link are on that 8 port splitter. I just want to split it once more at 1 of the DVRs.
     
  12. Vin

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    Again, I don't know why he's telling you that you can't split the coax behind your HR24 to feed a BB DECA, it's done all the time. I'm wondering if he thinks you're trying to connect another DVR or receiver....you wouldn't be able to do that since you're already feeding 8 tuners from your SWM LNB.

    You can be sure of one thing....if there's something I'm overlooking, someone will surely chime in and set me straight. :)
     
  13. dennisj00

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    You can split the cable to the 24, just use a green-label 2 way.

    And it'll work. The number of DECAs have nothing to do with the number of tuners.

    If you're really into details (which it looks like you are!) There's a sticky with VOS' info of loss per splitter / type. In general, 8's are bad unless you're using most of the ports.

    For the type of use you've described, adding these few devices to the DECA cloud won't be a problem. If anything, schedule your backup when you're not watching TV via mrv.
     
  14. Bill Broderick

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    Unless you buy your HR34 from a retailer, such as Solid Signal, and doing it yourself, this probably isn't an option. The installer will end up installing a DECA network for you at the same time that he installs the HR34.
     
  15. harsh

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    Perhaps they are recommending that instead of adding a splitter, you replace one of the existing splitters with one that has more outputs.
     
  16. hdtvfan0001

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    That's not always the right approach.

    There's science behind the right path to follow...something veryoldschool has posted about in detail as an expert. Perhaps he can add some insight.
     
  17. harsh

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    As the OP seems to be driven to seek dozens of answers as opposed to trying any one of them, I was simply offering a possible reason why Solid Signal seems to be giving advice that appears to be in conflict with generally accepted solutions.
     
  18. SolidSignal

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    Hi,

    I'm sorry you got confusing information. I'll talk to my colleagues and make sure it's a little clearer.

    You can add a splitter further down the line from an 8-port splitter under most conditions. Of course you can have no more than 8 tuners on a single SWM leg of a SWM-16 and no more than 8 tuners total on a SWM-8.

    If you're not fully using every line coming from your 8-way splitter it might be best to replace it with a 4-way as the signal loss from a 8-way splitter is very great, and that's a good reason not to further split the line.

    We've found that MRV problems due to low signal levels in the connected home (550MHz) range are very hard to diagnose and so it's best to avoid over-splitting if possible. I think that's what our tech meant to say to you.

    Please let me know if there's anything I can help with.
     
  19. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    They simply gave bad info.
    Splitter loss & cable loss can't exceed about 30 dB.
    An 8-way + a 2-way is about 20 dB, leaving 10 dB for cable loss, or about 100' of coax.
     
  20. SolidSignal

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    And, of course thanks, veryoldschool, for making sure everything is clear!
     

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