Directv going HD only as of July 24th (?)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by slice1900, Jul 3, 2014.

  1. HoTat2

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    So if at a later time they choose to upgrade to HD programming, the charges revert to the current old pricing structure of a $25.00 ARF (for DVRs) and the primary receiver fee waived?
     
  2. RAD

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    So how will they handle RV accounts, no more 101 auto tracking dishes will be allowed?
     
  3. slice1900

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    Its not known, but they'll still use the 101 satellite, it will broadcast MPEG4 HD programming. Theoretically they could put all the most watched and/or lower package channels on 101, and allow customers to use a 101 only dish for lower level packages like in a RV.

    I did some back of the envelope calculations a while back, and probably 2/3 to 3/4 of the current list of non-PPV HD channels could fit on 101 at the same quality level as today if it was dedicated to MPEG4 HD programming. That's based on 26 CONUS tpns being available on 101, 44 CONUS tpns currently in use on 99/103, the reduced error correction requirement roughly balancing the reduced bandwidth per Ku tpn, and some 99/103 capacity being used for PPV and MPEG4 SD channels.

    If you want stuff like MLBEI and NFLST to be available on RVs, you're looking at more like 1/2 to 2/3 of the current list, but that would still cover a lot of content. You probably wouldn't even miss much. If you drop one feed for channels with both a east coast and west coast feed, some of the extra channels for premiums like HBO and SHO, the content that's unavailable from 101 would be niche channels that only a few percent of people ever watch.
     
  4. RAD

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    Just asking since Peds said no LOS to all 3 slots no service.
     
  5. Rickt1962

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    Nahhh don't need the BUD people only need a small Antenna to receive HD channels OTA with out rain fade ! Just use a http://www.amazon.com/3500STBII-Multi-Function-Converter-Recording-Playback/dp/B00GOILYB6/ref=sr_1_18?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1402444570&sr=1-18&keywords=tv+with+qam+tuner#productDetails
    For a DVR for Free and get basic Internet for XBMC and they will have everything for a fraction of the cost per month !
     
  6. Joe Tylman

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    When I read the title I saw that as the removal of SD channels or MPEG 2 channels for all customers.

    The following would be slightly clearer:

    • DIRECTV only installing MPEG 4 equipment for new customers
    • DIRECTV no longer differentiating between HD/SD for new customers
    • Another phase of going MPEG 4 only coming
    • Cheesecake is awesome (ok not really clearer but it is awesome)
     
  7. James Long

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    Perhaps you should read the posts I am replying to ... and the posts I'm not replying to that are still posting about HD only installs (as opposed to MPEG4 only installs). :rolleyes:

    MPEG4 = HD is an incorrect assumption that should be corrected, not condoned. It is the type of assumption that leads people to believe that the PI channels in MPEG4 are "HD". Accuracy is better. :D
     
  8. peds48

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    My post was in reference to Ka satellite signals, it had nothing to do with OTA. Two different animals. But go ahead and jump right in... :rotfl:
     
  9. peds48

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    In order to activate an HD receiver, you must have LOS to the required sats, don't forget about IV.
     
  10. James Long

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    Which would be true? I do like cheesecake but some people may not. At this point the first is should be true, the third is true but esoteric and confusing, and the second has yet to be seen. I'd read "no longer differentiating between HD/SD for new customers" as "everyone gets HD channels" not "everyone gets HD (that's MPEG 4) equipment".
     
  11. acostapimps

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    They should just remove the $10 monthly HD fee already for all customers, If 4k is the new future even though is HD also with higher resolution.
     
  12. James Long

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    Morning has broken ... the low end receiver on the DirecTV website is a HD model (complete with $6 fee).

    It looks like existing customers paying $25 advanced receiver fees or some combination of grandfathered fees get to pay more than new customers. And new customers who don't want HD do not get a choice. (Sorry grandpa.)
     
  13. Diana C

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    And because they are not turning HD on for everyone, they need to keep the SD duplicates indefinitely. They can't rely upon the receivers to down convert because I doubt they can lock a receiver to 480i output only. The only mechanism they have to control HD vs SD reception is in channel authorization. So the SD duplicates will be around until they decide to stop selling SD service.
     
  14. tonyd79

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    What makes you think that? They are able to detect 3D comparability and are able to turn off the premium movie channels based upon connection types. Why couldn't they turn off HD resolutions in software? I'm not saying they are now but who says they can't? In fact, we know they can. The only thing is the trigger mechanism.

    The SD dupes will be around for a while, so they don't need to do anything now but you are making an assumption with no basis.
     
  15. joed32

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    Picking on us grandpas again?
     
  16. revolg

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    I think this is a good idea on directv helping the techs. It's a multi year conversion to hd. So the end result is hard to see. But with only carrying hd stuff takes half my inventory away thank god!!!!!

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  17. JosephB

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    I think over time they will just get rid of the SD vs. HD pricing difference. Right now they have to keep SD duplicates anyway because of the old equipment in the field. It's advantageous since they can start getting HD gear out there, and gradually adjust pricing on the SD customers so that it converges with HD pricing over a long arc, instead of just dumping a $10 price increase instantly. Also, that price doesn't necessarily have to be $10 once every single customer is paying it, or when they wring some costs out of the system after the AT&T acquisition.

    When everyone has HD equipment, there won't be an "HD Fee" and they will dump SD duplicates. Otherwise the whole exercise of getting everyone on HD-capable equipment is a waste of time, energy, and money.
     
  18. jimmie57

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    Another small advantage to installing new customers with HD receivers if they also install the Slimline dishes with them is that there would be no "upgrade costs" to moving to HD. Just turn it on.
    This would possibly make it an easier decision for someone to change from SD to HD programming.
     
  19. slice1900

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    Are installers involved when someone orders service for their RV? Since the dish is either built in or you set it up when you park, I figured there's no "install" as such for RVs. If that's the case, IV doesn't matter, though most people would be concerned when they see red Xs over 99 and 103 during setup. Maybe in this case they'd modify the software so if it sees only 101 and nothing else it doesn't show 99 and 103.
     
  20. slice1900

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    New customers always get a better deal, so that's not new. If today's new customers hit the two year mark and they're still paying $4 less, then existing customers have a right to *****, but I would guess they'll make the same changes (dropping HD fee / $15 ARF and removing the $6 refund for the first receiver) for existing customers at some point.

    They said they were going to simply the billing, removing one fee and removing the refund of another fee would make the billing more clear.
     

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