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DIRECTV has lost and got back Tribune stations due to retrans dispute

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by RAD, Mar 26, 2012.

  1. Apr 2, 2012 #401 of 862
    gully_foyle

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    I wonder how many people who find alternatives to broadcast for their shows will eventually come back to Tribune stations. Local broadcasters must know that their days are numbered, what with satellite, cable and broadband delivery possible direct from the networks, not to mention the various methods of lesser legality. When you pull non-exclusive goods from the marketplace, you only help your competitors. Ask any supermarket chain that went through a strike.
     
  2. Apr 2, 2012 #402 of 862
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    as a Yankee fan I must veer off topic for a second. HEH HEH.
    The real issue here isnt whether D* and Tribune can come to common ground, but the realistic fact of will the Mets still matter in August or September????

    getting back on topic..Ive never been more happy to have the coax lead into my HD.. I have Cable Modem service from Time Warner, *no more cable box. I split that coax lead --> into the TV I get WPIX-11/CW affiliate here in NYC in HD and the 2 alternates they provide in the NY market, LATV & Antenna TV. The coax lead I usually use when **heavy rain takes out my signal.. My only loss is WGN America that you need a box and isnt unscrambled on Time Warner's straight cable into your cable ready TV..


    **Key word being heavy downpour rain, and lightning. Yes fanboys :) weather does affect signal!! Usually the HD signal, the SD signal REALLY needs a monsoon type of summer rainstorm to also wipe out my SD signal..

    *I had a Cable box and DirecTV (more so RAN to get a box) when the threat came last year when D* was threatening the YES Network pull last year. It didnt happen and I just kept the box, have since returned it because of parallell high bills.

    This is my 3rd channel pull since I've been a D* customer since 2005..any other pulls feel free to put them in....if so they didnt affect me. These 3 did..

    Versus pull..now NBC Sports
    G4 abolishment
    and now WPIX-11 & WGN America Tribune..
     
  3. Apr 2, 2012 #403 of 862
    maartena

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    This whole thing gives me a thought..... From a technical point of view, it doesn't seem impossible to create a Dish, that also along side it has a areal antenna on the same mount, and make every receiver "aerial antenna aware" so they can switch to the aerial version of a station when needed, and also include the local substations.

    Yes, we already have the AM21, but you are still required to setup your own roof antenna if needed and run your own, separate cabling. It would be really cool if DirecTV just offered a "all-in-one" package when the installer comes by.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2012 #404 of 862
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    I do exactly what you do, except substitute Cablevision for TW. The one bad part is that I will have to watch whatever I want to watch on PIX live and record other stuff I normally would watch live, such as tomorrow's Rangers-Flyers game. The other issue is I have only one TV that is hooked up to my cablemodem, so anyone who wants to watch CW has to watch out there.
     
  5. Apr 2, 2012 #405 of 862
    skaman74

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    Why is it illegal. Doesn't dish network have the superstation pack so how can it be illegal.
     
  6. Apr 2, 2012 #406 of 862
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    It would have to be omnidirectional (most good antennae are directional) and it would probably have low gain. In other words, it would suck. They made (make?) an antenna that hooks onto a dish. It is pretty bad. You get all kinds of multiple signal paths (ghosts in analog but noise in digital, causing signal disruptioni) that makes the antenna all but unusable except in some situations.
     
  7. Apr 2, 2012 #407 of 862
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    One time I went up to my rooftop, I saw someone that had the 2 dish setup from E* and had and old school huge VHF/UHF antenna next to their setup. The coax line from the antenna looked new and definitely not something thats been up there for years. So dont know if they did that or if DISH-Network provided that or if that was something the customer did themselves.

    I remember that my TV antenna was removed because landlord claimed they looked ugly..but satellite dishes on the roof is ok...go figure..I am very lucky to have my Directv Dish on a roof top, not out a window, 10 floors up no trees or anything in its line of sight!!!
     
  8. Apr 2, 2012 #408 of 862
    Alan Gordon

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    There are several issues with that idea, but I'm going to focus on one. Namely, the antenna...

    There have been many attempts over the years to make an antenna that fits on your dish or the dish mount. However, most of these antennas only work if you live somewhere with great reception.

    Also, many people do not want antennas. The satellite dish is pushing it, the antenna is too much.

    ~Alan
     
  9. Apr 2, 2012 #409 of 862
    Santi360HD

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    I also know that Cablevision is very tight on capping coax lines, so people cannot do that..EVEN IF YOU'RE ON THE BOOKS FOR PAYING SOMETHING!!!Time Warner typically hasnt cared if your line is open or not. I remember one time in my girlfriends house I got a static shock one time from a coax line she had hanging on the wall, not near a tv...so I plugged it in and the cable line was live. Still uses it to this day for basic channels...In manhattan TW is very limited on whats open if you plug the line into your TV. Ive never gotten any other charge on my bill (other than cable modem service) for having a cable line into my TV.

    Keeping it on topic and now I'm using the Time Warner's coax to get my local Tribune station..!!
     
  10. Apr 2, 2012 #410 of 862
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    Federal law gives broadcast companies the exclusive rights to distribute local stations to the viewing public. That means we cannot – by law – bring another ABC, CBS, CW, FOX or NBC station into a city unless the station that’s licensed to serve that community will allow it – and they never do in these sorts of contract disputes. They want you to be without these major networks, depending on what type of station they own, so you get upset enough to surrender to whatever pricing demands that have. We continue to argue to the FCC and Washington that these sorts of situations are exactly why they need to change the rules. You shouldn’t be held subject to threats from the same stations that the FCC has empowered with the public airwaves to serve you.

    Source: DirecTVPromise.com
     
  11. Apr 2, 2012 #411 of 862
    AlanSaysYo

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    Crazy that a random lunchtime visit to dbstalk is what informed me that I can't get Fox right now.
     
  12. Apr 2, 2012 #412 of 862
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    I take it you haven't tried to watch Fox since 3am eastern Sunday since there is a huge message on the channel explaining the details? :confused:
     
  13. Apr 2, 2012 #413 of 862
    AlanSaysYo

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    Correct. I assume I have several recordings of that message if the Sunday comedies were new last night. I guess it'll be antenna time.
     
  14. Apr 2, 2012 #414 of 862
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    I hear people talking about huge antennas on their house. You may not need that anymore. Most digital channels are in the UHF range, which is a much smaller antenna.

    Go to http://www.antennaweb.org/ to see if you even need a VHF antenna. For instance, in Chicago the only station broadcasting on VHF is WBBM-2 on digital channel 12 which can be picked up by a HI-VHF antenna(much smaller)

    Here's the link to search for your local channels:
    http://www.antennaweb.org/Address.aspx

    I'm lucky to have a couple of HR20s so I can record the programs, but I also have it split to the TV so I can receive the channels that DirecTV doesn't have in the guide.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2012 #415 of 862
    Lucid504

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    Yeah i can get my local channels with a Indoor FM Antenna Surprisingly well like 85-90% signal strength
     
  16. Apr 2, 2012 #416 of 862
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    I thought a rule passed oh maybe a year ago that allowed Directv and Dish to broadcast locals from an adjacent market? Why can’t Directv just broadcast the Philly Fox station in the Central PA area like Comcast does?
     
  17. Apr 2, 2012 #417 of 862
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    I blame both Directv and Tribune for letting this happen. It's bad for the customers who pay a lot to watch programming from those stations. They both need to get a deal done ASAP.
     
  18. Apr 2, 2012 #418 of 862
    Alan Gordon

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    While I have multiple channels around me in the VHF range, most of which I can pick up just fine with my large antenna outside, it wouldn't matter. A larger antenna is needed here in order to get a good (mostly) reliable signal.

    Yeah, some people have it easier now, but not everyone...

    ~Alan
     
  19. Apr 2, 2012 #419 of 862
    sigma1914

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    I can't afford a "Blue" range antenna and have someone install it.
     
  20. Apr 2, 2012 #420 of 862
    hbg ota nut

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    +1. I have called to complain about this multiple times. In York County, we are permitted by FCC ruling to receive the Baltimore locals as Significantly Viewed Channels (SVC's). However, DirecTv does not seem interested in providing them, even though they are on the same spotbeam as HLYL.

    I got tired of waiting, so I put up a tower with a 91XG 10 feet up from a 7084p 40 ft off the ground with a rotator so I can now get all Philly OTA and all Baltimore OTA.
     

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