DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official 2019 Thread)

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  1. Apr 1, 2019 #161 of 398
    James Long

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    If DIRECTV is following the law that would be a subset of each market. Refusal to provide local into local does not grant permission to deliver distants.

    Both sides have money ... so I expect the NAB/broadcasters will call AT&T|DIRECTV on any lies.
     
  2. Apr 1, 2019 #162 of 398
    slice1900

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    Everyone in the 12 markets Directv does not cover get distants today, which STELA explicitly allows. If STELA expires or is renewed under different terms, then Directv may have to take distants away from those people (or possibly even from everyone) Even if they got their own locals instead, some people are going to consider that a poor tradeoff.
     
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  3. Apr 1, 2019 #163 of 398
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    Are you 100% sure about that? If it's THAT easy for D* to just say, "eh, we're NOT going to bother putting up locals in XX markets & just give them DNS service across the board, then why would D* have even bothered to do the number of markets they DID do?
    My understanding of STELA, was that if a DBS provider DOES offer locals in a DMA, then they MUST provide them to EVERYONE within that DMA - & NOT provide them DNS in lieu of their local networks, regardless if they fall within a grade B OTA signal contour. This is a completely different situation...as opposed to NOT providing ANY LIL service to these (12) markets & just giving every D* sub DNS service across the board - I thought there were still laws in place forbidding any providers from doing this???

    EXACTLY...so how IS D* getting away with this???
     
  4. Apr 1, 2019 #164 of 398
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    KyL416 can say if I’m right or not but I believe this example may be what he’s talking about...

    NASA channel can only be used as a p/i channel if it’s broadcast in Mpeg2 right now because the lowest common denominator is mpeg2 sd equipment.

    Today, it wouldn’t qualify as a p/i channel if it where broadcast in Hi Definition because then it’d be in mpeg4 and not everyone can get Hi Definition either even if it was done in mpeg2.

    Once they only have mpeg4... everyone will be able to receive not only mpeg4 but also Hi Definition channels. The new lowest common denominator will be mpeg4 and Hi Definition, which would allow dtv to broadcast nasa in Hi Definition and still use it as a p/i channel.

    His hope is then these channels will be changed to Hi Definition since it’s not necessary for them to stay as mpeg2 OR SD anymore like it is today.

    While a agree on the obligation for the most part, I can see nasa and maybe a couple others getting bumped to Hi Definition.
     
  5. Apr 1, 2019 #165 of 398
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    I doubt it, but if all the locals in the unserved markets are O&O and the network allows them, they can do it.

    I didn’t realize all those markets actually got the networks.
     
  6. Apr 1, 2019 #166 of 398
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    No they don't. If they are within the b grade contour of a local affiliate of the network they can't automatically qualify for DNS for that network anymore, unless they were grandfathered and already had DNS before a certain year when the rules got stricter. i.e. Glendive, MT only has a local CBS and NBC station, so they are able to automatically qualify for DNS for Fox and ABC since the only OTA presence of those networks are either a translator of KHSD from the Rapid City DMA or a translator of KFBB from the Great Falls DMA, but for CBS and NBC a new subscriber or an existing subscriber who doesn't already subscribe to DNS either needs to be outside of the Grade B contour of KXGN, or apply for a waiver, which the station can reject if they want to.

    None of the unserved markets are O&O. But since the markets are really small, several of them don't have a local affiliate of some of the networks, or their "local" affiliate is a translator of a station from a neighboring market, but since that's an out of market station, it doesn't count so they don't have to protect the rights of that station. This also applies for markets that DirecTV does carry, like when they had a dispute with KARE's owners in Minneapolis, they were able to replace the remap of KARE for the Mankato market with a remap of WNBC until the dispute was over, even though KARE has an OTA presence in Mankato via a translator.

    However if they don't renew the DNS permissions, markets like Mankato would lose NBC, along with ABC and CW on both DirecTV and Dish, except for the counties and/or communities that are listed as significantly viewed for a neighboring market's affiliate.
     
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  7. Apr 1, 2019 #167 of 398
    James Long

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    And (for those who need guidance) grandfathered means at some point that specific customer qualified for DNS via DIRECTV and has maintained DNS service since the date that they obtained them. There have been some adjustments that would make it easier to get distants - most of the adjustments have made it harder to get distants.


    Correct. O&Os are in major markets ... not the 12 remaining. Recent developments have led to more stations carrying more than one network affiliate, which shortens the list of short markets. The "short market" in Indiana (Lafayette) now has a low power affiliates serving ABC, NBC and FOX (carried by both DISH and DIRECTV).
     
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    Ok TBN, now give me EWTN.
     
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    New 4k channel 107 movies and 105 live4k are we getting more sports in HD ??
     
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    masters 4k + an other sports in 4k?
     
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    I don't have 4K, but I see this in the guide..

    104.. DTV 4K
    105.. Live 4K (Upcoming Masters)
    106.. Live 4K (Upcoming Masters)
    107.. Cinema 4K
    108.. Cinema 4K
     
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    CNN International is being added on May 19 per this:

    AT&T TV Channel updates

    It doesn't say if it'll be in HD but I think it's safe to assume it will.
     
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    CNN International's North American feed is currently only available in letterboxed SD, so it's not a safe assumption at all
     
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    It's in HD on Apple TV.
     
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    I explained it over in the lineup update thread. Basically that's the TV Everywhere app stream, the feed for cable and satellite providers is still SD only.
     
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    My mistake then.
     
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    Will we get CNN International in HD?
     
  18. slice1900

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    No, read the last few posts on this thread for the explanation why.
     
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    Is in HD 720p on the CNNgo app on my SAMSUNG smart TV

    Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk
     
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    It's in 1080p on my Apple TV
     
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