DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official 2020 Thread)

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  1. Apr 4, 2020 #101 of 216
    schmave1

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    ^ Which is why it was especially infuriating for six seasons (2013-18) when DirecTV blacked out Pirates games on AT&T Sports Net Pittsburgh in large portions of the team's claimed territory, including central Ohio. Yes, Columbus should not be Pirates territory at all as no one here cares outside a few eastern Ohio transplants, but the fact remains that we viewers were left without their games in that timeframe short of going to the MLB Mix channel or Reddit.
    Oddly, I could watch via the RSN's website during the 2018 season.
     
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  2. Apr 5, 2020 #102 of 216
    cmasia

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    My house to:
    Angels home - 265 miles
    Dodgers home - 273 miles
    D'backs home - 309 miles
    Padres home - 333 miles
    A's home - 552 miles
    Giants home - 568 miles

    All "in market home teams" for Vegas residents.

    It is so stupid, and no amount of logic will ever penetrate the coconuts of MLB's Suits.

    Want more stupidity?

    Padres home to Angels home - 95 miles.
    But Angels are "out of market" for San Diego viewers, and vice versa.

    Do I need a slide rule to explain this to the Suits?
     
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  3. Apr 5, 2020 #103 of 216
    richall01

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    Blame MLB they set the rules, not DirecTV .
     
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  4. Apr 5, 2020 #104 of 216
    James Long

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    The A's and Giants seem to be the outliers. Having no team in your area leaves the area up for grabs by the neighboring teams. A MLB team in Nevada would fix that. Or break it for anyone who is a fan of the provided teams.

    Giving nearly the entire state of Wisconsin exclusively to the Brewers and nearly the entire state of Michigan to the Tigers shrinks the Cubs/Sox exclusive territories and creates "hundreds of miles away" in market footprints and less than 90 miles being out of market (depending on the location). No team in Indiana or Iowa leads to the same issue you see in Nevada.

    In the City of Chicago being a north side Sox fan or a south side Cubs fan has been frowned upon even though the stadiums are served by the same "L" line. Closest team only would not work for two teams in the same market.

    There is a better discussion of this in the MLB thread - which would probably be a better place for a rehash.
     
  5. Apr 5, 2020 #105 of 216
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    Um, er, uh...Please read it again That's exactly what I did.

    Cheers.
     
  6. Apr 5, 2020 #106 of 216
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    As I understand it, this idiocy predates even the RSNs, let alone DBS TV. Goes back to the mid-70s. Baseball was trying to work out some disputes about AM radio. Each team was just allowed to draw its own map, which led to the ridiculous overclaims and crazy quilt overlaps with place being "home" to as many as 6 teams. The only changes to the map have been expansion.

    Sadly baseball incompetence made it far easier to get two teams, Atlanta and Chicago, for many people than their historic regional teams, from the late 70s until after the turn of the century. The vast damage this did to small market teams, indeed to all teams, remains to this day. And now, sadly, baseball's continued incompetence is making it far easier to get every team except the local one(s). Which will only further damage the regional fans of what is a regional sport.

    What need to be done:

    - Every claim must be examined in terms of the real situation on the ground. Over-claims must be cancelled.

    - EVERY RSN deal on EVERY system is for the entire claimed market, period.

    - EVERY RSN will make a good faith effort to be available on EVERY system, period. Prolonged failures to make the LOCAL team(s) available to LOCAL fans will automatically result in binding arbitration on a fair price.

    - A few places, including Las Vegas, must be understood to have no real local teams. A regional network for these places, with revenue shared equally, featuring daily games selected across baseball, must be developed.
     
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  7. Apr 6, 2020 #107 of 216
    JoeTheDragon

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    Sports net Vegas ALT 1-5 Directv to have them all in HD cable may very.
     
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  8. Apr 6, 2020 #108 of 216
    machavez00

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    Since TBN and the SBN (AKA the Swaggart Channel) are in HD, can we please have EWTN HD?
     
  9. Apr 6, 2020 #109 of 216
    JoeTheDragon

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    I think they need to pay more to get an HD slot
     
  10. Apr 6, 2020 #110 of 216
    richall01

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    Dish just added the rest of the Encore channels in HD, OK DirecTV add them too!!!
     
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    dishrich

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    No, they added some more...but there's still more missing, including E-Action, as well as 2 other Starz in HD, which D* has in HD:
    New Encore Channels in HD
     
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  12. Apr 7, 2020 #112 of 216
    schmave1

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    Reynoldsburg...
    I agree with most of this, but as on the other board where we had this discussion in years past, the superstation era helped baseball far more than it hurt the game ... and in any case, it's been over for five years since WGN stopped carrying the Cubs and Sox nationally. TBS hasn't carried the Braves since 2007.
    Those two channels and others were smart enough to take advantage of their situations in the late 1970s. Growing up in Columbus, I could watch the Braves and Cubs far more than the Reds and Indians. Whose fault was that? I'd blame the local teams. And again, in any case the script is flipped now. Teams televise darn near every game and no single team shows games outside their markets anymore.
     
  13. Apr 8, 2020 #113 of 216
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    I will not be even slightly surprised if the nba tries to show many many more games if not all games nationally on all its main partner channels if it makes it back. Same with nhl. MLB May give away ei for free for an extended period as well..

    But really, all of these take do not require that many overflow channels. It’s Sunday ticket and college football that really require the big jump in temp overflow channels.

    What would really be taxing and interesting is if nba, nhl, mlb nfl and college football all overlap a little bit this year. I doubt that will happen for the regular season but I can see pre season football overlapping the others some.
     
  14. Apr 8, 2020 #114 of 216
    JoeTheDragon

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    What channel will take the roll of CNBC and MSNBC for NHL playoffs?? (may not want to tie up the news channels)
    But if came down to over laps on OTA channels?
    NFL or GOLF on CBS? (some markets dumped to an sub channel? or CBS SPORTS NET) (Let an other OTA channel take the local NFL game?)
    NFL or NHL on NBC (dump NHL to NBCSN?)
    NFL or MLB on FOX (dump MLB to My network TV and FS1?) (mlb running into late November unless NO SUNDAY GAMES)
     
  15. Apr 8, 2020 #115 of 216
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    CNBC easily.

    NFL will win every single time.
     
  16. Apr 8, 2020 #116 of 216
    richall01

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    Let's worry about getting to the bridge first..then worry about crossing it!
     
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  17. Apr 8, 2020 #117 of 216
    James Long

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    Agreed ... although I will note that NBC will have some open air time on their networks this summer instead of the Olympics.
     
  18. Apr 9, 2020 #118 of 216
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    What everyone is describing is the coming (hopefully, and I agree, don't count your chickens before they are hatched and all of that) "sports glut". With few exceptions, most sports have not cancelled, the plan is to try to fit 12 months of sports into 10 or 9 or even 8 months. More specifically, it is to play late winter and spring events it one of two periods. The summer, where viewing is at its lowest in normal times, and people are probably pretty tired of being in isolation and are going to get out yet more than a usual summer's day; and during a little thing I like to call "football season".

    What remains to be seen is not only how network accommodate having more programming than they need, although it is important to remember that NBC has an Olympics hole and, with Hollywood shut down, next season's prime time shows may not show up until later in the fall, where all of this shows up. Both Fox and CBS have two of golf's Majors now set during NCAA and NFL commitments, just for one example. But also does the sports watching public really care if the Indy 500 or Kentucky Derby or whatever is on, when it is football season.
     
  19. Apr 9, 2020 #119 of 216
    inkahauts

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    I am sure there Will be some scheduling gymnastics going on. But I think there are enough channels to spread stuff around to. And if they’re showing enough extra games during the day and during the week then they just won’t air things on say Sundays during NFL games like they otherwise would be showing on a Sunday during other times of the year. But we will see.
     
  20. Apr 9, 2020 #120 of 216
    James Long

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    It might put football in its place having other sports available.
     

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