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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Greg Alsobrook, Dec 23, 2011.

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  1. Alan Gordon

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    Turner Entertainment Company (a subsidiary of Turner Broadcasting System) owned a considerable amount of films... so once upon a time, they did.

    Now that Time Warner owns TEC and TBS, TW might have taken possession of those films, and even though TW owns TCM, they might now pay TW for the rights to distribute those films.

    I don't know how it stands currently. Just throwing some trivia out there for everyone. :)

    Either way, I think it's depressing that WB doesn't allow TCM access to at least some of their films with HD broadcast transfers out there... :(

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  2. Alan Gordon

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    Sadly, there is a lot of great films that you absolutely correct about. However, there are some films out there with HD masters available... some of which we know about because of their airings on HDNet, or availability on Blu-ray.

    Some movies available on Blu-ray that are on TCM in the next two weeks are:

    "Stagecoach"
    "How The West Was Won"
    "Anatomy Of A Murder"
    "North By Northwest"
    "Dr. Strangelove Or: How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb"

    Now, granted, just because there is an HD master for Blu-ray, doesn't mean there is an HD master for broadcast, and two of those releases were licensed... not to mention that HDNet Movies (or other channels) might have HD broadcast rights, but these are just a few examples I noticed.

    (titles in Blue are ones I own on Blu-ray, titles in Red are ones I wish I had on Blu-ray.)

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  3. Laxguy

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    Although the existence of an HD Master for Blu-ray would make the production of an HD Master for broadcast rather easier....
     
  4. maartena

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    Yes, but not necessarily less costly. The "master" copy is not shot in a ready to use HD format for either blu-ray or broadcast, but in uncompressed, raw video. From that, video can be processed into more common compression formats e.g. for BluRay, but also for DVD, all the way down to analog VHS if they really still needed to.

    An example of this is Star Trek: The Next Generation. Although shot in the late 80ies and early 90ies, it was shot in a high quality film appropriate for the technology of the day, and is now being converted into 1080p BluRay discs for the market. The conversion from this raw film/video that is on file to HD BluRay is not cheaper/faster then converting it to say.... an 4:3 broadcast format (and keep in mind: the source video that broadcasters use is often better than SD quality we receive on our end), as it needs to be converted either way. Now, the 4:3 broadcast format is readily available, as it has been done when the series was first broadcast 25 years ago, and as such, it is easy to come by by stations that want to syndicate this Star Trek series. I remember that at one time about 5 years ago, three or four broadcasters had Star Trek: TNG in their lineup somewhere.

    Now converting it to HD will add a cost. If you are converting it to BluRay, you are going to want to sell the product. This is currently being done to Star Trek: TNG, and there is a sufficient market of Star Trek fans out there to sell the product. This will easily be a profitable venture.

    With the classic movies, its a different story. Sure, the big ones like Casablanca, West Side Story, Citizen Kane, Dr Zhivago, etc..... will sell like cupcakes when converted to HD. And there's the dilemma: 80%+ of the movies shown on TCM might not sell all that great, and is there really a reason to release it in HD if recouping the money might be an issue? TCM might want to pay for converting movies to HD for broadcasting, but as others have said.... the library is VAST.

    I have seen TCM in HD at a friend with cable. (sigh). And yes, it LOOKS great. But then, Star Trek:TNG, in 4:3 format, shown on a HD station with black bars on the side of the screen..... also looks 3x better then the same show on a SD station because the source video used to broadcast is better then the NTSC SD standard. With TCM, and movies being wide-screen, they often just show the video they already have format it so it uses as much real estate as possible, and it looks pretty good. But it isn't 720p HD really, it is just a master copy of video being shown on an HD station, and it looks pretty darn good and a hell of a lot better than SD, but it isn't a converted-to-HD movie.

    Keep that in mind.... when you finally do get TCM HD, don't think you are watching 720p or 1080i converted movies. You are most likely watching the video source they have, which looks a LOT better then SD, and is just broadcasted over the HD feed.
     
  5. Alan Gordon

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    I would say it greatly improves the odds that such a master was done at the same time anyway. :)

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  6. Laxguy

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    Yes, indeed. And adding Marteena's points, I'd gather that most Masters are done off the same raw (digitized) telecine, which itself may or may not be color corrected, saturation adjusted, repairs made, etc.
     
  7. djzack67

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    So what's then new waiting date. Mid April?
     
  8. Fog627

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    Is posting on topic still allowed??? :confused::confused:
     
  9. rta53

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    I would think so but some people will probably get annoyed if you do.
     
  10. Bonneville44

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    I want tcm
     
  11. djzack67

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    Agree
     
  12. Santi360HD

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    whats coming in april?? more SOON? stuff?
     
  13. Paul Secic

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    They didn't say, but my guess would be 5 to 10 years.
     
  14. maartena

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    The burning questions:

    - What is going to be the next "more HD"?
    - When is the next "soon"?
    - Is the "more HD soon" going to be "basic"?
     
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    I think we'd all like to know the answers to your questions. Hope someone out there can give us an update soon.
     
  16. maartena

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    For me, my wishlist has grown a bit....

    BBC America is still #1 on my list.

    But since programmers have been moving high quality programming to other channels, (such as History --> H2) or channels have changed focus somewhat, letting other channels pick up more targeted programming (HGTV --> DIY).... My wishlist has grown a little.

    I want H2, DIY, and OWN in HD as well. The latter because my wife seems to love the programming on that channel.
     
  17. ARKDTVfan

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    time to update my HD wants

    H2
    DIY
    Encore Action,Drama, etc
    IFC
    FMC
    TCM
    HLN
    E!
     
  18. HGuardian

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    EPIX
    H2
    IFC
    DIY

    Please.
     
  19. Paul Secic

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    All of the Encore channels.. I wonder what's holding up? They started back in August.
     
  20. APB101

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    No.

    I'd prefer to puke up my gallbladder than to see DirecTV once again fixate on adding unnecessary screens of premium-movie channels (while ignoring basics) in HD.
     
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