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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q1-13 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Dec 27, 2012.

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  1. Feb 9, 2013 #1381 of 1828

    FenixTX Godfather

    Nov 11, 2005
    But how many actually watch high def programming? I know quite a few people that have HDTV's but only have standard def boxes and just believe they are watching HD.
  2. Feb 9, 2013 #1382 of 1828

    lost4now Cool Member

    Apr 21, 2010
    Nope, that is about the only thing I watch in SD.
  3. Feb 9, 2013 #1383 of 1828

    cypherx Hall Of Fame

    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    Or they have HD setup, just out of habit they are tuned to ch 2 instead of 502,602,702,802 or wherever cable operators are hiding HD these days. Most notably everyone on my wife's side of the family. I don't think her grandmother will EVER make it up to the HD channels WAY up high on her Cisco 8640 HDC set top.
  4. Feb 9, 2013 #1384 of 1828

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    I don't know that I've seen a recent (particularly since D* went to 6 HD per transponder) analysis of competitive bandwidth capacity. Anybody else?

    D* puts a high emphasis on sports, and has more sports available in HD than the others, from NFL football (where they have an exclusive), to more HD allocated to the other major subscription packages like NHLCI, NBALP, MLBEI. Most competitors have far fewer HD feeds for those other packages.

    The cable companies have some limitations and have been working around them by getting rid of analog channels (which take up more bandwidth), and forcing more customers into having to have a box (which is standard in the satelliite world, but hasn't been required in the cable world unless you wanted higher packages/capability).

    DISH uses a lower horizontal resolution than DirecTV to save bandwidth (sometimes derisively called "HD Lite"), since the technical standard for "1080i" only requires vertical lines of resolution to be 1080, and so they fudge the number of horizontal pixels from the typical 1920 to only 1440, but without technically breaking the standard minimum requirements to call it "HD".

    At any rate, it all comes down to tradeoffs and priorities, in addition to fundamental technical limitations (which to be fair, one could also say are really tradeoffs and priorities too, just at a higher, more cost-intensive, level).
  5. Feb 9, 2013 #1385 of 1828

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    So that there is no confusion about what is "standard" and what isn't, I refer you to ATSC A/81 (July 30, 2003) that establishes the standards for DTH satellite broadcast (from the ATSC's perspective):


    Page 17 shows a table of the possible horizontal and vertical configurations as well as scan rates.

    In that table, you will find 1920x1080, 1440x1080 and DIRECTV's old standby, 1280x1080 are all in there.
  6. Feb 9, 2013 #1386 of 1828

    shyvoodoo AllStar

    Jun 24, 2011
    Can i PLLEEEEEEAAAASSSSSEEEE have Universal Sports in HD and I'll promise not to ask for anything else forever never again!!!!

  7. Feb 9, 2013 #1387 of 1828

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    Which is what georule said but you had to add a years old swipe at directv.

    This post was the equivalent of "our PQ sucks but yours used to a long time ago, Nyah, Nyah."

  8. Feb 9, 2013 #1388 of 1828

    acostapimps Hall Of Famer

    Nov 5, 2011
    I think complaining enough or anticipating a lot and making your voices heard would bring some of those HD channels that you want individually or in bunches, unless Facebook and Twitter has something to do with it, But I'm gonna still anticipate for beIN Sports EspaƱol HD
  9. Feb 9, 2013 #1389 of 1828

    lwilli201 Hall Of Fame

    Dec 22, 2006
    I visited a friend in the hospital the other day and there was what looked like a 36" TV in the room and it was showing stretched SD.
  10. Feb 9, 2013 #1390 of 1828
    James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    Perhaps Sixto or gct can give a capacity estimate. I know from Sixto's report that there are currently 199 HD feeds on DirecTV's system (with the PPV feeds sharing space with part time sports channels). That includes two Spanish HD on 119. There are still transponders with less than six HD channels. Whether they all could be packed out to 6 HDs is a question only DirecTV can answer (and probably will not for competitive reasons).

    I won't answer the DISH side of this question here since this is not a DirecTV vs DISH thread. But the question of "how many more channels can DirecTV add" is an interesting part of deciding which of the remaining channels should be added first (in the humble and varied opinions of the present company).

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

    Dec 11, 2007
    Mason, MI
    My brother in law mounted a 46" Sharp on the wall of his family room but is too cheap to pay for even the most basic HD channels. Blurry and stretched is how he rolls.

    He also gets the cheapest (slowest) internet that cable offers. It's ridiculous becsuse he can very well afford the additional $30mo it would cost him to bump up his cable/package.
  12. CockerKingdom

    CockerKingdom AllStar

    Jan 18, 2010
    I was watching "Top Secret Weapons Revealed" on the Military channel yesterday and saw a Military HD Logo. I didn't realize that the military channel was available in HD. If it is, I sure would like it's addition to our HD line-up.
  13. bnwrx

    bnwrx Icon

    Dec 29, 2007
    Could we PLEASE get Universal Sports(channel 625) in HD? We watch alot of the winter sports(Alpine,Cross Country,Bobsled,etc...) on this channel and while I am appreciative of DTV including it in the Sports lineup, being in only SD kinda sucks. Yesterday, the national NBC network carried the mens downhill from the World Championship's from Schladming and it was in GLORIOUS HD. These feeds are available to Universal Sports for almost all the winter sports,including those mentioned but also figure skating and biathlon. Watching these as well as most of the major cycling events from around the world in HD is just so much better than SD. There are only a couple of small cable companies in the US that carry the HD feed(saw them posted somewhere on this Forum, but can't name them now) and according to the link below it provides 1200 hours of HD programming per year. Please DTV, switch us to the HD feed....http://universalsports.com/press/

    Rant over......:grin:
  14. TomK

    TomK Godfather

    Oct 18, 2010
    One more vote for Universal Sports in HD. I have one more spot available in my HD only custom guide.
  15. mitchflorida

    mitchflorida Godfather

    May 18, 2009
    Fox Movie Channel should take priority over Universal Sports. It is watched by more people and is more important.
  16. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    Do you have a link to back this up?
  17. boukengreen

    boukengreen Legend

    Sep 22, 2009
    defiantly need universal sports in hd.with qualification ramping up for sochi most of the winter events are on universal sports
  18. mitchflorida

    mitchflorida Godfather

    May 18, 2009
    Universal Sports isn't even carried by Comcast, Time Warner Cable, or ATT Uverse, among many others. Fox Movie Channel is carried by all of the major outlets.
  19. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    Those services don't typically claim to be The Sports Leader.

    It is refreshing to see someone request and HD channel that actually exists (since June 2012).

    I suspect that the whole NBC/Comcast conglomerate sports thing is a sharp pain in DIRECTV's (and other carrier's) ass.
  20. cmasia

    cmasia Icon

    Sep 18, 2007
    Las Vegas
    If I were NBC, I'd be making noise about showing weekly Barclays Premier League matches on Universal Sports starting next season, along with their other NBC Universal outlets.

    The prospect of EPL games on Universal Sports would really up the "anticipation level" for the HD feed.
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