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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Dec 26, 2010.
Does that make the observation any less valid?
If DISH Network can tango with Rainbow after the VOOM fiasco, DIRECTV should be a slow dance.
"It takes two to tango" is catchy but it doesn't explain or justify anything. The downside is that if competitors are completing the negotiation dance, there's little left but to question either DIRECTV's ability or desire to dance.
You don't understand. Those deals that all the others are leading them down a path of destruction. Only Directv has the foresight to understand and avoid them.
But until they learn to tango with MLB for Extra Innings, they are useless to many of us.
+1......I rather DirecTV do a long tango when negotiating then do the "Minute Waltz" like DISH does.
You cannot compare the carriage negotiations involving one service provider to the negotiations for another service provider. Different circumstances, different terms, and different variables. I'd rather DirecTV take their time and come to an agreement with the best long-term potential gain for their customers. If we wanted to go with a provider known for making deals with a short-term gain, but a long-term loss...we'd go with Dish Network.
Perhaps you should focus on topics you are more familiar with.
You've stated that conclusion several times, but that doesn't make it right. (Though it could be.)
There're too many other factors you and I aren't privy to. And, as in many things, it's timing, timing, timing. Or the straw that will break the camel's back..... or the last straw.
You got that right...nice job!
Hutch, I have Fios available here in the Richmond, VA area and I am still with D* since there is hardly any difference in the lineups and the last time I checked you were most likely to get a dvr with the small hd as opposed to the new one with the 500 gig drive. I am willing to be patient for a while longer to see if D* does come through with new basic hd channels as Sat has implied. Also we have D* with the capacity but reluctance to add channels, but from what I am reading on the Verizon Fios boards they are at about their current limit for new channels. I don't understand the technical reasons but they have to add some new equipment to increase what they are currently have. There are as many posts over on Verizon lamenting this as we have.
There is nothing wrong with criticizing DirecTV. The issues arise when folks rely on baseless assumptions, overheated rhetoric, and the absence of facts and common sense.
DirecTV will add additional HD channels when deals can be reached to carry them. Of course these will be wise, well conceived, and deliberate business decisions.
I'm not suggesting DISH Network is necessarily a viable alternative. I'm pointing out that if DISH can do a deal under decidedly adverse conditions, the "too hard" would seem to lie with DIRECTV.
You'd still miss the HD games on TruTV with your Holy Grail FiOS. They really don't have that much more in basic HD.
They can? ABC Family?
Each of the program distributors, satellite or cable, seem to have difficulty negotiating contracts with certain providers, that others lock in contracts with right away.
DirecTV having the largest amount of subscribers, I think many of the program providers expect more from DirecTV than other distributors, making their negotiations more difficult.
Yet in all the times I've offered that observation, the response is almost always that I couldn't possibly understand (or care).
If there is a reasoned alternative explanation, I'm sure there are many who would be interested in hearing it. An off-handed suggestion that the providers are substantially unwilling to negotiate acceptable carriage terms doesn't seem well reasoned or supported by the evidence.
Same arguments by the same posters day after day, month after month, year after year. Ugh.
So is there any actual new related to the addition of additional HD channels?
I expect that all of the big five MSOs expect pretty much the same "most favored nation" deal.
I suppose that if you look at it that way, not striking a deal at the earliest opportunity pretty much closes the door on negotiation as you end up negotiating a new deal for all of the other "most favored nation" carriers.
One conclusion to this line of reasoning is that the longer DIRECTV waits, the less likely they are to be able to negotiate a custom-tailored deal.
You have no idea what variables and terms are at play. You seem to imagine that each provider deals with the same proposed agreement in a predetermined little package. Perhaps you should focus on the shortcomings of your own provider rather than flailing around over here.
Has it really been "year after year"?
Are you wanting a poll? Here is one personalized specifically just for you:
Are there any new, national HD channels coming to DirecTV?
4) Not quite following the complex line of questioning
5) I'm just waking up today
As has been the case for awhile, subscribe to this thread for updates: http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=174806
Now, you can avoid the "Same arguments by the same posters day after day, month after month, year after year."