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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. Jun 6, 2012 #1161 of 1602
    Sixto

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    Remember it's not just the Lakers that could be lost, add in the Pac12 channel and FSN losing the former Pac 12 FBall/BBall games and even more teams will not be seen. As I understand it from my So Cal counterparts, USC Football rules the market each fall. That's why I too don't see D* not picking up TWC Sports and also the Pac 12 channels in some sort of mix even if it's the national channel with the local RSN channels on when needed for games. There is a chance to lose way too many subs on the West Coast.
     
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    Paul Secic

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    And that's the end of 3D TV.
     
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    Paul Secic

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    The CW isn't really a network because it's just on two hours a day..
     
  5. Jun 6, 2012 #1165 of 1602
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    Technically, the number of programming hours really has no bearing on whether or not it can be called a "network". Definition:


    net·work

    noun
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    any netlike combination of filaments, lines, veins, passages, or the like: a network of arteries; a network of sewers under the city.

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    Radio and Television .
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    a group of transmitting stations linked by wire, satellite or microwave relay so that the same program can be broadcast or telecast by all.

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    a company or organization that provides programs to be broadcast over these stations.
     
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    Well yeah, D* can do no wrong, it's never their fault. :rolleyes:
     
  7. Jun 6, 2012 #1167 of 1602
    Coca Cola Kid

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    Yeah and E* actually has it too. Of course that's Cox's fault since nothing is ever D*'s fault. :rolleyes:
     
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    Your comparing a market where they have gained subs without ever carrying a channel and it's programing to a market where they would be loosing a massively popular and important amount of programing because it is changing stations. And the DMA for this RSN is massively larger than the Los Angeles DMA, so again, you are undercounting the size of distribution of this channel. This isn't like Philly or any other RSN in the country interns of coverage. I am not aware of any other RSN that has the footprint this one does. Can you name one?

    Not to mention, they have three major sports, and I would not be one bit surprised they don't get the Dodgers, and since they will also have a Spanish change, they could be adding a major amount of subscribers that DIRECTV has always coveted in the largest Spanish market in the country.

    Gee, I don't see opportunities for both sides to make a ton of money on this one....;). The real question is if twc will be willing to not take it all and then some.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2012 #1169 of 1602
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    You will still see some football games on fox from the way understand it. I think we will find out the tv schedules next month. Should be very metering to see how they div up all the games. I think espn and ABC are getting some too, as I think all three are involved in owning the new PAC 12 channels. I think that will minimize the impact of the PAC 12 channels inherit need as much as the inherit need to keep the status quo by adding the twc RSN.
     
  10. Jun 6, 2012 #1170 of 1602
    inkahauts

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    I'll bet it's all ppv style stuff from own and they will just temporarily shift into a ppv slot when it has something on it.
     
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    Coca Cola Kid

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    Another LA area person claiming if we don't get TWC SportsNet it'll be the end of D*

    Sorry, but WNBA is NOT a "major" sport that's why there's only 12 teams. MLS is NOT a "major" sport either, that's why there's only 19 teams. This is compared to 30 MLB teams, 30 NBA teams, 30 NHL teams, and 32 NFL teams.

    Also, 82% of the US speaks English as their primary language compared to the 12% who speak Spanish primarily. The ratio is probably higher in SoCal, hence the TWC Deportes, but I doubt their will be many more all-Spanish RSN's, except maybe in other areas of the Southwest, or South Florida.
     
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    I'm not sure I'm thrilled about this. . . unless we have some reason to believe that D10 can't support the streams from the hypothetical new encoders. But we don't, do we?

    De-loading D10 looks more ominous than happy-making to me. Like a risk management step.
     
  13. Jun 6, 2012 #1173 of 1602
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    There are as many people speaking Spanish in Los Angeles to San Diego as there are speaking English. There actually isn't a majority anymore. No, I don't think this is something that would go over big across the country, but in southern California, yeah it will.

    I'd also bet that DIRECTV s biggest Spanish market is here as well.

    And you severely underestimate the popularity of soccer in southern California. There is a reason we actually have two teams.

    By your logic, the nfl must suck and isnt really all that popular either because they have no team in Los Angeles market which is massive. Some sports are much bigger in some areas than others.

    And no where did I say it would be the end of DIRECTV. I am saying that it would hurt the though, without question. But by no means would it be the the end for them. They'd just have a bad few quarters by their standards while there was a market adjustment for the loss those channels. It might be partially mitigated by the number of people who might pickup a second service.
     
  14. Jun 6, 2012 #1174 of 1602
    inkahauts

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    D10 can handle the new encoders just as any of the other satelites can.
     
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    The demand is obviously high. Yes, soccer is big among Hispanics, that's a fact. Other races, not so much. The opposite could be said about basketball. I hope we get both TWC channels. With the Lakers as the main bargaining chip for the English version and soccer for the Spanish one, you probably will; but I don't think the Sparks will come into play though. I'm just saying there's other factors involved though, mainly money.
     
  16. Jun 6, 2012 #1176 of 1602
    inkahauts

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    True. But I also think DIRECTV may want to hedge its bets. I'm guessing they will be able to pick this channel up cheaper now than latter if they get the Dodgers too, which will also have a huge Spanish following. And the Lakers are actually very well followed by Spanish. They have a dedicated Spanish announcers team thats been the same for a long time working for many many years. Kind of how chick was there forever. Lakers are very big in the Spanish community. Much bigger than most people realize, including me for a long time.

    You are right, sparks may not mean much, but a few million is still a few million dollars every year, that hey got out of their new contract.

    This is one of the few times where I think both sides can win if they all play their cards right. Very unusual in the RSN game.

    Also, imagine if the Dodgers do defect. You almost have to wonder if prime ticket may become a part time Spanish channel for Angels games, if twc is very successful. There are lots of possibilities and repercussions from this experiment.
     
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    Sixto pointed out to me on the other thread that D* didn't just move straight across one transponder to another across birds. There's evidence they are doing some mix and match, which would make sense if they were trying to find the right blend to take maximum advantage of new encoders (the new encoders provide higher bandwidth efficiency on some types of content more than other types of content).

    If they re-load those newly empty transponders on D10 with 6 channels per in the nearish future, then I'll be ready to pop the champagne corks.
     
  18. Jun 6, 2012 #1178 of 1602
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    That's what I thought...

    The only team I had much knowledge about were the Phillies, and outside of Cory Matthews (fictional character... LOL!!), I really wasn't aware of any vocal Phillies fans...

    ~Alan
     
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    There used to be a legal definition of the term network that did include the number of hours of programming. There were some things a network can do that a non-network could not. I don't know if that is still true.
     
  20. Jun 6, 2012 #1180 of 1602
    Alan Gordon

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    Apparently you don't count FOX as a network either then?! ;)

    To the FCC, it does!

    The WB, UPN, and MyNetworkTV never qualified for that status. The CW does...

    It was around the time it qualified for that status that DirecTV offered DNS options for it (which they never did for the other networks listed above).

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