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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. harsh

    harsh Beware the Attack Basset

    Jun 14, 2003
    Salem, OR
    As much as anything, the purpose is to keep all the laments in one place. There's even a separate technical anticipation thread now.
  2. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    Thank you gentlemen for taking the time and trouble to help us straighten out our DIRECTV® threads.......hard to imagine we could have done it ourselves.

    I almost had a psychic girlfriend but she left me before we met.
    ~ Stephen Wright
  3. TheRatPatrol

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Its been a long 3 year cheer, thats for sure.
    And wait, and wait, and wait.........
    I agree. I still don't know why the need for all of these 24/7 RSN's, there's no need to have them on all the time, expensive. I'm still a proponent for game only channels.
  4. domingos35

    domingos35 Icon

    Jan 11, 2006
    just like DIRECTV subs feel the need to comment on Dish
  5. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

    Dec 2, 2010
    O, the irony!

    At least most of us do so on topic, and in decent English.
  6. Mike Bertelson

    Mike Bertelson 6EQUJ5 WOW! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Jan 24, 2007
    Okay, it stops here. No more disucssing each other. No more discussing D* v. E*.

    Discuss the topic or your post is gone.


  7. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    They only have to fill 1 channel with content. The other 6 part-time HD channels will only show games.

    12 Universities. 6 will play against 6 on certain days, and all games can be shown. And there is a lot more then 6 games of course, as there is more then 1 sport. But if they plan their football, basketball, baseball, soccer, and other college sports accordingly, every market should be able to watch all games on their local "Pac12-RSN-Equivilent".

    Whether DirecTV is going to actually carry them, is a different story. Cable outlets have it a bit easier in this case, as they really would only have to reserve bandwidth for 2 (or 3) channels, 1 being the main HD, and 1 being the local part time version, and maybe a 2nd one if the town has 2 universities. They don't have to think nationwide like DirecTV will have to.
  8. inkahauts

    inkahauts Well-Known Member

    Nov 13, 2006
    I think the six local RSN will be full time, with all kinds of content and games and so on from the two schools in its market. A you say, there are a ton of college sports, lts more than is actually show n tv generally. I think the goal is to get as many sports on tv as possible, if not all of them. Then the national channel will simply be a feed of the best and biggest games and sports of the six local channels. This is why they don't care if you carry a local RSN or the national one, because the local will have everything the national one has and more. It seems they don't plan on scheduling big games at the same time, I.e. football, on two separate local RSNs. You will only have one game at a time on any of the pac12 channels. This is why FOX and espn will also still be carrying football games, etc.
  9. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    But PAC12 also plays Baseball, Basketball, Soccer, Hockey, Track&Field, perhaps even Volleyball and Lacrosse. I understand they will not schedule important games on the same time, but with a lot of sports it is almost impossible to NOT have games at the same time.

    Currently, most USC/UCLA games are shown on Fox Sports in the Los Angeles region, and sometimes on ESPN if it is important enough for nationwide coverage, and that works.... as those are 2 RSN's and 1 national channel.

    The current situation is that Fox Sports has 2 RSN's, and has the broadcast rights to MLB Dodgers & Angels, NBA Lakers & Clippers, NHL Ducks & Kings, MLS Galaxy & Chivas, plus USC and UCLA games. Then there are the local stations KCAL9 and KDOC which play a number of Dodgers, Lakers, and Ducks games as well. So in theory there could be 4 games at the same time, 5 if one goes national on ESPN or weekend broadcasts of major networks.

    The future situation in the Los Angeles DMA will look something like this:

    2x Fox Sports: Dodgers, Angels, Clippers, Ducks, Kings, Galaxy.
    2x Time Warner Sportsnet: Lakers, Chivas USA.
    ?x PAC12 channels: USC, UCLA.

    KCAL9 will still broadcast Dodgers games, but no more Lakers games. (Which sucks for the Laker fans that don't want cable/satellite and were satisfied with a game once every 2 weeks or so on KCAL9). KDOC will still play occasional Ducks games.

    Dodgers broadcast rights are up for grabs after the 2013 season, so by Feb 2014 they have either changed to Time Warner, or stay with Fox Sports.

    In any case, to show all major teams and all collegial teams in the Los Angeles DMA, DirecTV (and other carriers) are looking to change from 2 Full HD RSN's to showing 4 full time RSN's plus whatever PAC12 channels will actually be carried.

    And that is not only a financial consideration, but also a bandwidth consideration.... they will have to carry all of those stations on a CONUS transponder (for one, the Lakers territory goes way beyond the LA/SD spotbeam, but RSN's are national anyways), and bandwidth is scarce. This setup will mean that for the L.A. DMA, DirecTV will have to reserve AT MINIMUM 3 CONUS HD spots, and if they do carry the substations of PAC12 (which of course are also for many other markets) an additional 6 CONUS HD spots

    What I am thinking is that DirecTV will HAVE to carry these sports stations for many reasons earlier discussed in this thread, and that this may mean no, or less basic HD additions. 9 CONUS HD spots is quite a bit, and I have a feeling this is why they are re-organizing to 6 HD per transponder.
  10. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    They are NOT going to show every game of every sport of every university. The cost of doing so does not match the benefits.

    Look at the BTN. 12 universities with some of the biggest athletic departments in the country. They still show repeats of repeats and only use the alternate BTN channels during football and one or two other times a year.

    The PAC12 is making out that they will have targetted programming (like coaches shows and the like) one the regional channels. Complete bullhockey. They are overblowing it all.

    I will bet the hold up is defining the "regional" channels. Only cable providers have signed up so far and I will bet that they will only show the local channel for the regional ones. There will be a lot of ticked off fans when Comcast only shows the local teams and not the other ones.

    The whole plan is overblown and stupid.
  11. JoeTheDragon

    JoeTheDragon Hall Of Fame

    Jul 21, 2008
    Also other upcoming RSN's need to be planed for as well some of plan if OTA TV where to be cut down and RSN needed to add more alt channels to take the load.
  12. djzack67

    djzack67 Icon

    Sep 18, 2007
    Thank You
  13. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    It must have been late when you typed that. :D

    Still not quite sure what you mean with that sentence, honestly, but don't forget RSN networks are CONUS for the Sports Package, where the local channels are LiL.

    OTA TV.... is OTA, and does not take up any bandwidth from DirecTV. Locals are carried on DirecTV on spot beams, and don't take bandwidth from a CONUS transponder.
  14. larry55

    larry55 Legend

    Jun 3, 2010
    thank you.
  15. dakeeney

    dakeeney Legend

    Aug 29, 2004
    :mad: I for one am getting fed up with dtv and their foot dragging when in comes to rolling out the basic hd channels. There are good channels out there in hd. I believe dtv has lost the race for the most basic hd channels.
  16. fleckrj

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    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    DirecTV never claimed to be in the race for the most basic HD channels. DirecTV's niche is sports and premiums. DirecTV does not care about the missing basics. The major basics are already in HD. There are no missing basics that have a large demand.
  17. TheRatPatrol

    TheRatPatrol Hall Of Fame

    Oct 1, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Um.....BBC, H2, NGW, FMC, TCM.....to name a few.
  18. APB101

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    Sep 1, 2010
  19. sigma1914

    sigma1914 Well-Known Member DBSTalk Club

    Sep 5, 2006
    Allen, TX
    How many of those are top 30 (aka big demand outside dbstalk) cable channels?
  20. fleckrj

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    My point, exactly. While those channels are not in HD on DirecTV, none of those are in the top 20 basic networks in terms of total viewership or prime time viewership. All of the top 20 basic networks are already in HD on DirecTV.
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