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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. dakeeney

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    get rid of some of the ppv and rsn's and they would have room.
     
  2. Dcm210

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    get rid of those crappy SD shopping channels.
     
  3. slimoli

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    They certainly are. The other option, Netflix, is delaying almost all new releases on bluray ,30 or more days. A lot of people want to watch blockbuster movies ASAP.
     
  4. maartena

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    DirecTV caters towards sports lovers, and 99% of Sports bars nationwide have a DirecTV account, and they are WELL paying customers. So adding sports and making sure they don't lose access to any major teams is quite important to DirecTV.

    Also, if someone loses access to their favorite sports team, they are much more likely to switch provider then if they lose access to their favorite cable network. (or not get it in HD).

    And they aren't totally OUT of bandwidth, they just have to manage the available bandwidth until their next satellite launch.

    It is all a fine balance between income & bandwidth. As you can probably find on this forum, they are currently in negotiations to get 9 (!) Sports channels, (2 new RSN's for Los Angeles, and the 7 Pac-12 channels that will launch in August), and although it is not at all clear whether they will carry all Pac-12 channels, these are things they need space for, and we'll have to wait and see what those negotiations turn up.

    Additionally, the TV industry is always changing. New channels are launched, sports teams relocate or sign deals with other TV entities. (Or create their own), sometimes TV channels are split up in 2 channels with different topics, and any company would be wise to have some sort of backup/reserve in place, just to make sure they can address market changing situations.

    Their next satellite is going to launch in 2014, and until then they have to manage their bandwidth carefully. Even with cutting down on (income generating!) PPV slots, and changing from 5 to 6 HD per transponder, they still haven't got enough space to add the roughly 50 or so channels that are in HD but are only SD on DirecTV. So they have to make choices, and smart planning.

    DirecTV has chosen Sports as their main focus, where Dish Networks clearly has chosen Basic HD as their main focus (seeing as they carry more basic HD, but a lot less RSN's and Sports compared to DirecTV.)

    As a customer, you should be aware of these focuses, and plan your TV watching for the next 2 years accordingly. If basic HD is important to you, and important enough to switch provider, I would probably consider switching to Dish Network. But you might want to see about your local RSN if you like sports, because Dish does not carry them all.

    In the end, no provider has everything you want, and you can't have it all. But the facts don't change: DirecTV won't be able to add all of your HD wishes before 2014, and even after that it might take a while depending on how much money the stations in question are asking.

    It is what it is. If you want to see more BASIC HD this year, you'll probably have to switch to Dish, I don't think DirecTV will be providing you with what you seek.
     
  5. maartena

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    Shopping Channels PAY DirecTV to be on their lineup instead of the other way around. So every channel that gets removed, will only mean your bill will go UP.

    Besides, it takes about 4 SD channel to 1 HD channel with regards to bandwidth, it just isn't worth cutting those channels, especially since they generate income for DirecTV.
     
  6. maartena

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    You can get more basic HD and less sports and premium within a week!

    Schedule a Dish Network installation tomorrow and cancel DirecTV. If basic HD is more important to you then sports and premiums, you unfortunately have picked the wrong provider.
     
  7. Coca Cola Kid

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    That's such a cop out. D* should be saying "Come to us, we have everything.", instead of basically telling people "We only have sports and premiums. If you don't like it, go somewhere else".
     
  8. maartena

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    DirecTV isn't telling us to go somewhere else, and they certainly do not have "only" sports and premiums. You are exaggerating.

    DirecTV has a VERY LARGE collection of HIGH RATING BASIC HD channels, and is only missing a few that are really wanted by some here. (plus a bunch more that almost no-one carries) They have enough HD channels to serve the largest amount of people in the country possible: Those interested in the most popular channels combined with those interested in sports and premiums.

    DirecTV probably has the most well-rounded lineup in HD, there is enough basic, enough sports, and enough premium to make most people happy. The disadvantage is that providers that really don't focus on sports and premiums - such as Dish Network - instead focuses on basic HD, and thus have more of that type of channel in their lineup.

    This is a choice that people have to make. I personally like the well rounded lineup of DirecTV, and I get sports I would not be able to get on Dish Network. Others might prefer basic HD and could care less about sports and premiums. Those people probably would have chosen Dish from the get-go.

    It's not a cop-out at all, people simply have different preferences. Certain people would like the DirecTV lineup better because of more sports and premiums, some like the Dish Network lineup better because of more basics. Some others are quite satisfied what local cable outlets have to offer, and they too seem to be a bit more focused on the Basic HD side than DirecTV is.

    All I am saying is that it is VERY likely we won't be getting much Basic HD from DirecTV this year, and if that is what you really want for Christmas.... well, you might just have to switch.
     
  9. djrobx

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    Might not be a bad strategy. My mother loves Oprah. She's tried, but just can't bring herself to watch OWN, because the SD looks so bad.

    I wish they'd offer 16:9 480p mpeg4 or something to get us by at the correct aspect ratio until they have the capacity to offer true HD. DIY would be fine in 480p, it's just the windowboxing/stretching that makes it painful to watch. I realize that suggestion makes some nervous (going back to "HD Lite") but it would be so much more watchable.
     
  10. thelucky1

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    Yep total cop out! It's amazing all the excuses people come up with as to why Directv is NO LONGER the overall leader like they were at one time YEARS ago. Blah, blah, blah. No I don't want to change providers, I want Directv to be aggressive and become the overall leader again. Yes it is still possible to please both Wall Street and your customers. Come on Mike White...lead the industry.
     
  11. Coca Cola Kid

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    It's the definition of a cop out. There's no excuse for why D* doesn't have the HD trifecta (basic, premiums and sports). D*'s basic HD lineup is certainly "good" but there's no legitimate reason why it can't be "great".

    I think it's too early to be making such pessimistic predictions about what will or won't come in Q3 and Q4 either. If the 44 slots are really there like they say over at the tech thread, and the negotiators get off their butts and get some more deals done "soon", I think it'll be an eventful 2nd half of 2012.
     
  12. Davenlr

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    Check my sig...enough said :)
     
  13. Coca Cola Kid

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    Darn right. D* shouldn't accept the fact they're #2 in basics. I'm not switching providers either, I don't give up that easily; and neither should D*.
     
  14. TheRatPatrol

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    Maybe this new guy (can't remember his name) taking over for Chang will get some more HD added "soon".
     
  15. Coca Cola Kid

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    Hopefully, but the channel owners still have the same people (as far as I know anyway).
     
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    Does anyone have an idea what part of 2014 will be the launching of D14?

    And can we realistically expect that satellite to be able to deliver numerically the missing basic-cable (plus, and I'm being generous, premium-movies and sports) programming in HD?


    M.I.A.
    01. 204 Headline News HD
    02. 230 DIY Network HD
    03. 232 Cooking Channel HD
    04. 233 GSN HD
    05. 235 Style Network HD
    06. 238 Reelz Channel HD
    07. 240 Home Shopping Network HD
    08. 251 Oxygen HD
    09. 253 Lifetime Movie Network HD
    10. 256 Turner Classic Movies HD
    11. 258 Fox Movie Channel HD
    12. 260 We TV HD
    13. 264 BBC America HD
    14. 271 H2 HD
    15. 273 TV Guide Network HD
    16. 274 Ovation HD
    17. 275 QVC HD
    18. 279 Oprah Winfrey Network HD
    19. 283 Nat Geo Wild HD
    20. 285 Investigation Discovery HD
    21. 289 NASA TV HD
    22. 294 The Hub HD
    23. 295 PBS Kids Sprout HD
    24. 301 Nick Jr. HD
    25. 304 TV Land HD
    26. 313 Jewelry Television HD
    27. 328 TV One HD
    28. 333 MTV2 HD
    29. 338 gmc HD
    30. 339 Fuse HD
    31. 345 RFD-TV HD
    32. 350 C-Span HD
    33. 351 C-Span 2 HD
    34. 353 Bloomberg Television HD
    35. 369 Daystar Television HD
    36. 370 Eternal World Television Network HD
    37. 371 The Church Channel HD
    38. 372 Trinity Broadcasting Network HD
    39. 374 Brigham Young University HD
    40. 377 Tri-State Christian Television HD
    41. 404 Galavision HD
    42. 540 Encore Drama HD
    43. 541 Encore Action HD
    44. 559 IFC HD
    45. 605 Sportsman Channel HD
    46. 606 Outdoor Channel HD
    47. 625 Universal Sports HD [high-definition feed launch expected in 2012]


    Not currently in the lineup [even in SD]
    48. 29x Disney Junior HD
    49. 310 G4 HD
    50. 352 C-Span 3 HD
    51. 3xx BBC World News HD
    52. 524 OuterMax HD
    53. 533 IndiePlex HD
    54. 534 RetroPlex HD
    55. 54x Epix HD
    56. 54x Epix 2 HD
    57. 54x Epix 3 HD
    58. 6xx ESPN Goal Line HD/ESPN Buzzer Beater HD
    59. 6xx Longhorn Network HD
    60. 6xx Pac-12 Network HD (seven screens; launches in October)
    67. 6xx WWE Network HD (launches in 2012)
    68. 6xx Time Warner Cable SportsNet HD (launches in October)
    69. 6xx Time Warner Cable Deportes HD (launches in October)
    70. 6xx Comcast SportsNet Philadelphia HD
    71. 6xx Comcast SportsNet Houston HD (launches in 2012)
    72. 6xx Comcast SportsNet Northwest HD


    Also Noteworthy
    73. xxx Africa Channel HD
    74. xxx MavTV HD
    75. xxx Wealth TV HD
    76. xxx World Fishing Network HD


    Not Mentioned
    Locals, Distant Networks, and National [east- and west-coast] Ion Television
     
  17. Hoosier205

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    They are the overall leader...by a long shot.
     
  18. inkahauts

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    Could it, sure, I don't see why not assuming d10 doesn't go for a swim in the ocean, but I doubt you will see a ton of stuff just light up the day it goes active. Maybe all the shopping channels and others that wont actually cost dtv anything to broadcast. I think the speed of Hi Definition adds right now has nothing to do with bandwidth personally, at least not sat to home bandwidth anyway. I think it's all that other stuff that's holding expansion back, or down I should say considering we have gotten some this year.
     
  19. Davenlr

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    You left off:
    MTVHits
    TR3S
    MTVJams
    MTVU
    VH1Soul
    CMTPure

    Just a few I am enjoying now, no thanks to D* :)
     
  20. Hoosier205

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    It won't be necessary for them to have enough capacity to carry all of those. No provider will ever carry every channel. Many of the channels on your list will never be worth anywhere near their asking price. With some exceptions...we are scraping the bottom of the barrel.
     
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