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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Mar 24, 2012.

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  1. APB101

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    There will be a point in which linear high-definition feeds of cable-television programming—regardless the respective category (basics; regional sports; national sports; premium movies)—will become so customary, the costs for carriage won't be the factor you seem to think they are. It's still early. And I'd venture to guess that, with future contract negotiations, providers will have a mandate to get a programmer's HD.
     
  2. georule

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    This is why the 6 channels per transponder thing is potentially a game changer. But we'll just have to wait and see how fast they push it.
     
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    I agree, but it will not happen in 2012 or even 2014. At some point, everything will be in HD, but that point is five to ten years away. Even then, though, I doubt that there will be one provider that offers every available channel.
     
  4. APB101

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    My guess: at some point during the second half of the 2010s. And it may involve "every available channel" [with a linear HD].

    (I look forward to more cable-television programmers getting on board with HD.)
     
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    While I have no problem believing that they would leave Dish over AMC, all those other channels haven't really even been mentioned in all the complaints over the dropping AMC channel by Dish.

    In fact, one of the scenarios that is being talked about is to drop all but AMC since the viewership of those is so low that paying for them at all is a ripoff!
     
  6. APB101

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    It was mainly over AMC HD. (I admit to not following that dispute too closely. Other matters on my mind. And I mistakenly typed in "IFC" twice when I meant, with the second part, Fuse as being part of AMC Networks' programming.)
     
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    That would most certainly help, but yes... there are many unanswered questions. I can hear people scream: "All transponders from 5 to 6, then add basic HD!" - but I don't know if all transponders can be re-worked that easily, what kind of equipment replacement (and thus investment) is needed, if at all, and how well they can balance it. Some HD stations are 720p and they take slightly less bandwidth then 1080i, and are also a little easier to compress, so they can balance 1080s and 720s on a transponder to get the desired bitrate/quality for all channels.

    I also read somewhere that ESPN1/2 has some sort of "quality expectation" in their contracts. I don't know if this is true, but coincidentally, ESPN is one of the few channels that actually DOES look awesome on U-Verse TV, where many others have lots of pixellation with fast paced sports movement.
     
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    I think what will happen at some point is that TV stations will no longer supply a SD feed, but ONLY the HD feed. ESPN is doing that, and those people still on older TV's and/or SD receivers will get a 16:9 letterboxed picture on their 4:3 screens.

    When this happens to all channels, providing HD really does become all about bandwidth/capacity, and no more about contracts.
     
  9. Hoosier205

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    Who is it that is discussing that scenario?
     
  10. andytami

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    DIY Net HD please
     
  11. lparsons21

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    I've seen it here somewhere and at other sites. But it is all pure conjecture from those with no real knowledge of the actual negotiations that are either going on or not going on.
     
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    Now that is a good idea Davenir!
     
  13. tonyd79

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    In other words, wishful thinking. AMC ain't gonna go for that.
     
  14. maartena

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    With regards to Dish/AMC, I'm thinking the only reason it is still on there is because AMC hasn't shut down the feed yet. Their contract has already expired, and I do not know whether Dish is still paying for it.

    Either that, or it is a desperate move to keep 12 million viewers that watch advertisement.

    In any case, this will be interesting. Dish has said they don't want it anymore, yet it is still there.... As long as it IS there, Dish won't lose the customers that want AMC, and AMC still gets to say they have 12 million more POTENTIAL viewers for their advertisers. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. I'm thinking AMC is desperate and is saying "pretty please" and Dish responded with "oh allright, but we'll put you on some far-away 4 digit channel number".
     
  15. Hoosier205

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    AMC cannot physically cut off the feed to just Dish. They have to formally request it be taken down by Dish. Dish can take it down, but they haven't. Smoke and mirrors by Dish.
     
  16. Davenlr

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    Of course they can. All they have to do is deactivate the key Dishes descrambler uses, just like DISH or D* can cut your access off with the push of a few keystrokes.
     
  17. Hoosier205

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    ...not how it works Dave.
     
  18. studechip

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    Care to explain how you know how it works?
     
  19. Hoosier205

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    Nope. :)
     
  20. Davenlr

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    That is exactly how it worked. We forgot to pay Fox one quarter, and the feed went black.

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    AMC West [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 1 1160 1130 E
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    AMC East [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 2 1260 1230 E
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    We TV West [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 3 310 300 E
    We TV East [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 4 410 400 E
    IFC West [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 5 510 500 E
    IFC East [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 6 610 600 E
    Fuse [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 8 810 800 E
    Sundance Channel West [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 9 E
    Sundance Channel East [LyngSat Address] PowerVu 10 E

    PowerVu has decoders that decode signals from certain satellites for cable distribution services. These decoders can also be used just like the FTA (Free-To-Air) satellite receivers if properly configured. PowerVu was considered very secure since it uses a complicated system to authorize each PowerVu receiver and trace its history of ownership and usage[citation needed]. Most PowerVu users are professional cable or satellite companies, using the service and equipment for signal redistribution, because regular users cannot afford it.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerVu
     
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