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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q2 2011 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Mar 17, 2011.

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  1. May 6, 2011 #2141 of 4112
    hdtvfan0001

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    ...and several indicate that they know how to run a successful and profitable satellite delivery service better than anyone too.... ;):D:lol:

    Take good notes. !rolling

    I anticipate a steady rollout of new HD channels throughout the year. Of course they will not come as soon, as much, or exactly as craved for some folks...but then...life is tough in the big city.
     
  2. May 6, 2011 #2142 of 4112
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    This would be interesting with HD because no one has limitless capacity. Most MSOs it would seem are not able to deliver all the HD content that mirrors the SD that they provide. Splitting up may be hard to do, but is reality (at least until D14 goes live, we hope).

    The other thing that has been mentioned... authentication. Remember, authenication has a very specific meaning in computer security... proving that you are who you say you are. I could see where D* is at a significant disadvantage vs. others. Cable Cos can use their hardwired networks for to control who gets on demand content. D* is going to try delivery through networks they don't own/control access to. They have to be able to prove the people who receive the content are the people allowed to get it.
     
  4. May 6, 2011 #2144 of 4112
    gaperrine

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    By his own admission, SR's posts do not report what DIRECTV is doing. The capital letters in NOT are his, not mine.


    "All comments are my own. Unless specifically stated, my views do NOT represent the views of DIRECTV"
     
  5. May 7, 2011 #2145 of 4112
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    I appreciate that addition on May 4 of Shorts HD (ch. 568). Not optimistic about what's being mentioned here regarding potential additions at any point before May 31 elapses.
     
  6. May 7, 2011 #2146 of 4112
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    This is shocking!

    How could it be that Dish Network beats DirecTV to the punch in adding GSN HD?

    (It's not like DirecTV has part ownership in GSN.)
     
  7. May 7, 2011 #2147 of 4112
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    :) So long as the arguments don't go beyond passionate into flames and beyond, I'm happy for a good argument. :)

    (Thou, I like good passionate discussion more.)

    One of the more difficult parts for me in the "More Basic HD" discussion is how basic? Partly because I don't remember what is in each of the tiers to know if something coming will be "basic" enough... :)

    And I really don't see the point in pissin' on someone's HD channel. Someone will like almost anything that DIRECTV could put up. I never watch the travel channel for instance, yet I'm very happy for thems who do like it.

    They will keep coming. Not as fast as most anyone would like (tomorrow isn't fast enough, of course) :) yet they keep comin'.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
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    Since my original response to this post apparently got deleted, I'll try again.

    Satelliteracer works for DirecTV. He freely admits that. There is nothing wrong with that, but that makes his opinions to be more likely to be biased than others not less so. If he criticized DirecTV, it's within the range of possibilities that he could lose his job. He's in a tough position, but since he is posting here I see no reason why he shouldn't be challenged just like any other poster.

    Again, when DirecTV is criticized, the person you fall back on when all else fails is someone who is paid by DirecTV. You see no conflict of interest there?
     
  9. May 7, 2011 #2149 of 4112
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    Possible rules of thumb:

    If it involves movies or sports, it probably isn't basic.

    If there are more than three channels launched at once, about 1/3rd of them will be basic.

    If there isn't kvetching within 15 minutes of going live, it may be basic.
     
  10. May 7, 2011 #2150 of 4112
    sigma1914

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    I think RSNs are 'basic' because they're given to those in the region as part of their base package.
     
  11. May 7, 2011 #2151 of 4112
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    RSNs are tough to categorize. They are basic to an area but a higher tier outside their area. They are regional in focus but nationally available (with blackouts) on satellite. They are non-premium locally and not really premium nationally but have content (MLB, NBA, NHL) that is premium.

    I count them as national because they are as national as HBO (pay extra). I count them as non-premium because they don't fall into the traditional premium definition and are part of a tiered pack. I count them as only 1 or 2 (NY excluded) credits toward basic.
     
  12. May 7, 2011 #2152 of 4112
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    For me, the easiest way is check out the Nielson ratings. This is also the best way to see what qualifies as a "national" channel. Essentially, any channel that shows commercials gets at least partially paid through ad revenue so are usually not a premium. There are some exceptions to this, most obviously Turner Classic Movies, which I don't know of any television service requiring customers to subscribe individually to.

    The confusion comes with packages like the Sports Pack or the HD Extra pack. For example, ESPNU and ESPN Classic relatively recently switched places between "basic" and "premium" packages on DirecTV and it really depends on your individual provider where one fits. There is also the fact that a channel like YES network is local and basic for New York City, but is a premium part-time channel for everyone else. DirecTV actually makes this definition easy for their subscribers. They include the Sports Pack, Showtime, HBO, etc, as part of packaged premium deals.

    It's really not that difficult to figure out what's what's. If you go to DirecTV's own website, the have a tab labelled "Premium" that includes HBO, Cinemax, Showtimes, Starz, HD Extra Pack, and the Sports Pack; and the channels they include.

    If someone is genuinely confused as to what a premium channel is, DirecTV easily provides information on their definition.
     
  13. May 7, 2011 #2153 of 4112
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    Nice the way you took a package that includes true premiums, is the biggest package directv has and claimed that all in it is premium. Uh. No.

    And again. Quit blurring national and basic. HBO is national. It is not basic.
     
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    They are basic for people in that specific region. If you don't live in that specific region, the only way to get them is to subscribe to a package DirecTV calls "premium" and that's only to get them part time.

    To come close to making them full time, a person likely needs to subscribe to two or three additional sports packages and then they still might be subjected to black outs depending on the whims of the NFL on pre-season coverage.

    If anything RSNs outside your region are beyond premium channels in terms of both cost and access of programming.

    If that's example is too complicated, think of foreign programming. If you lived in the country of origin, it would likely be "basic," but no one would argue that a foreign language package qualified as basic when you subscribe to it through DirecTV.
     
  15. May 7, 2011 #2155 of 4112
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    What?! Of course, HBO is national. It's programming is intended to be viewed by a national audience and has always been sold that way. It is also always sold itself as a premium service. DirecTV own website list it that way.

    Again, check DirecTV's own website. They have a tag labeled premium. You can see each package and then see what channels are offered in that premium package.

    You seem to be purposely misunderstanding me in a way that I can't figure you out. I'm attempting to make this as easy and understandable as possible. I really can't see how you can be confused.
     
  16. May 7, 2011 #2156 of 4112
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    Huh? The Spanish package is an alternate basic package.

    Same with fios.

    They are not add ons which a premium needs to be. They are sold separately.
     
  17. May 7, 2011 #2157 of 4112
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    Reread your post. You started out with national and compared that to premium. In the first paragraph.

    Edit. I don't think it was intentional. Just sloppy wording.
     
  18. May 7, 2011 #2158 of 4112
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    Wow Dish Network is really kicking Directv in the shorts on adding all these basic HD channels. I know alot of people will chime in that it doesnt matter but it does. This is from a non fanboys point of view.
     
  19. May 7, 2011 #2159 of 4112
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    This fanboy agrees.

    Dish has it all...they should be destroying DIRECTV in subscribers and financially. Why aren't they if basic HD is soooooooooooo important?
     
  20. May 7, 2011 #2160 of 4112
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    Okay, here's what I think you must be referring to.

    The key word is "also" in the second sentence, which should immediately clue one in that I am now talking about something else in conjunction with the original statement.

    Nielsen ratings exist for commercial buy rates. That's why it's the first place you can look in determining premium channels because they don't depend on commercials at all for revenue. To discuss premium channels on DirecTV specifically, one should also visit their website, where they specifically list what is a premium package and the channels in them.

    From the Nielsen ratings you can also get a good idea at what the industry considers a "national" channel because though RSNs show commercials, they aren't included in the national weekly list for ratings of national networks.

    I really don't think there was anything sloppy about what I originally wrote. Reading my entire original post, most people, I believe, would understand what I said. However, I could be wrong, so I hope this post elucidates my original post if there was genuine confusion.
     
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