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Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Scott Kocourek, Mar 17, 2011.
Now that DISH has settled with TIVO, it will be interesting to see if D* churn numbers start rising noticeably.
Really? Based on what? Tivos? Hahahahaha.
Yea, I don't see how that would effect it. The current line of Dish/Echostar DVR's weren't effected by the case, just older models IIRC, so nobody would have been waiting for a settlement (assuming that they even knew about it).
It's an element of uncertainty removed that had quite a lot of publicity attached to it over a significant period of time. The takeaway for a casual potential customer had to be "dunno if I'm going to lose my DVR capability at some point with those guys". Now it's gone.
I'd be willing to bet that less then 1% of the population had any idea about the Dish/Tivo litigation.
I have watched folks switch providers on various forums for years. The potential lack of a DVR from Dish is almost never mentioned as a reason to leave. Selection, PQ, hardware, customer service, price, availability, extras all trump the reasons to leave or go to a provider. A small handful change based upon having Tivo or not having Tivo but the possibility of losing DVR functionality due to a lawsuit, not so much. And NOT losing one is hardly going to be a driving factor to jump to Dish from anyone.
The silence says it all.
It's something I personally considered two years ago when I was leaving cable and trying to decide between DISH and DirecTV. There have been a couple times over the years that it has been going on that judges said DISH would have to shut their DVRs down, and it got big play in the press. I think far more than 1% of those who considered switching to DISH in recent years have at least paused to think about it, however they finally came out on their choice.
Anyway, we'll see in a few months.
I'm pretty tech savvy and keep up on the news and I had never heard about the Dish/Tivo litigation.
Not surprised. In terms of general news providers, you had to read the digest portions the technology pages in my local paper if you did not come to a forum like this one regularly to know about it. I am not even sure it made Consumer Reports when they reviewed cable/satellite providers.
Hmmmmm . Should I wait to see which HBO / Max HD will be delivered this month before canceling these premiums
HBO Comedy HD, HBO Latino HD, and MoreMax HD, plus 2 other Cinemax HD channels are coming next week.
Sounds like I might wait it out. Thanks.
Epic sounds very very cool
Even more Cinemax channels next month too.
Maybe I'm just me. i did due diligence on DISH vs DirecTV in the summer of 2009 before selecting DirecTV, and one of the items I was looking at intensely was DVRs. Google "Judge orders DISH to shut off DVRs" (without the quotes) and you'll get about 38,000 returns. I probably first heard about it from Endgadget.
Maybe a lot of folks just throw a dart against the wall --I don't.
They do when buying things and too often voting.
The June 2011 issue of DirecTV's monthly magazine is out and its listing the new HD's.... The 2 missing/unknown Cinemax's are listed as well as all the new channel locations:
1. HBO Comedy East-HD..... Ch. 506
2. HBO Latino East-HD.... Ch. 511
3. MoreMax East-HD...... Ch. 517
4. ActionMax East-HD..... Ch. 519
5. ThrillerMax-HD ....... Ch. 522
They're designating 4 out of the 5 new HD's to be available as "HD-Only" (no SD version to be available) :
HBO Comedy-HD; HBO Latino-HD; ActionMax-HD; and ThrillerMax-HD.
Although HBO Latino-HD is being designated as "HD-Only" it is also being designated as requiring a "Multi-Satellite System".... I'm guessing that they're keeping the SD version on the "Mas" satellite (thus the "Multi-Satellite System" designation) while adding the HD version off D12 (or D10/D11) and thus the "HD-Only" designation for the vast majority of DTV subscribers with 3-LNB set-ups ...
Also, the magazine has never listed HBO Latino before (prior to this month's issue) because they exclude listing the "Mas" channel line-up... The fact that they're now listing it may be a clue that the channel's HD version will be available to all DTV subscribers, not just the "Mas" subscribers....
Got a link?