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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. gully_foyle

    gully_foyle Hall Of Fame

    Jan 18, 2007
    Los Angeles
    Well, it was below a lot of things, but most of my wishlist has been granted. Save these. It comes up now mainly because people dislike having Fox/CNN/MSNBC (pick your poison) "personalities" ignore/talk over/show commercials during some program item you wanted to see. C-SPAN is the raw feed.
  2. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia

    We can all agree or disagree on whether or not a channel would benefit from HD more or less than others, but it's all going to come down to the above.

    I stand by my earlier statements, but they're just my predictions... nothing more.

  3. tonyd79

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    And I would bet the vast majority of CSPAN watchers don't care if it is in HD. It is data and information.
  4. Sixto

    Sixto Well-Known Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    If I watched CSPAN, I'd want it in HD. Simple as that.

    It's no different then any other channel. It has content.

    This is one of the weirdest debates I've seen. Now sunk to debating whether certain content is worthy of HD.
  5. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    All content is worthy of HD... maybe not to everyone, but to someone. I don't remember it ever being stated otherwise.

    The "debate" was started because several people (whom I agree with) stated that the CSPAN channels would benefit the least from the upgrade to HD, and apparently some felt that was an attack on their desired channels instead of a simple observation.

  6. Hutchinshouse

    Hutchinshouse Hall Of Fame

    Sep 27, 2006
    H2HD for sure! My wife and I watch that channel every night. Bring it on!
  7. James Long

    James Long Ready for Uplink! Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

    Apr 17, 2003
    I agree. Based on the limited times I have watched CSPAN it seems that much of their content is "raw news" ... and I often wish that the commentators on the commercial news networks (all of them) would just shut up and let me watch the news feed they are talking over ... without cutting in for commercials or to tell me what the person is saying while they are talking over them.

    I'd want NASA HD first (because I watch that), but CSPAN HD is not a bad second "Public Interest" network to be offered in HD. Hopefully it will not take an act of congress to get HD carriage of PI channels.
  8. Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    Sep 3, 2004
    It is completely bizarre.

    I guess I should only drive a car that goes to 70 MPH because that's the speed limit. OK, maybe I can get one that hits 85 for passing situations. I certainly don't need one that can reach 120 MPH.

    In a restaurant, I should only order menu items for $9.95 or less because they are as nutritious as a $15 steak.

    Since I mostly use my laptop for news and Internet forums, I really should only need a dial-up modem.

    I'll drink my Folgers because it will give me my morning jolt as well as expensive coffee grounds.

    Plastic plates and utensils are good enough for me.

    From now on, I'm only going to buy my clothes from Target. I don't live in New York City or Los Angeles. Target is sufficient for Minnesota and Wisconsin.

    I can get drunk just as well on Bud as any craft beer.
  9. cypherx

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    Aug 27, 2010
    PA - Berks...
    Ha, great post Carl Spock!

    Anyway there are people out there who just want to see better quality video on some of the channels they watch, be it CSPAN or not.

    It might not cost any more to produce the HD feeds for CSPAN, but like was mentioned because bandwidth is a finite resource (like oil, coal, gas, water, etc..) it does cost DirecTV a lot more to carry.

    So how about an overcompressed transponder with all the lower priority channels in an "Enhanced Definition". Maybe 8 so called "HD" channels perhaps HD-Lite... however because of the content they show and the slow moving video, it would still be worlds of improvement over what we have now. That could be a viable compromise, could it not? A single transponder containing content like:
    QVC HD
    HSN HD
    TBN HD

    (My local cable provider has all of those).

    Videophiles may scoff at 8 channels on a single transponder, but consider that it would still look much better than SD, Dish Network is already doing it, and these are not top rated networks.

    I just think its a way to get better picture quality, even if everything has to be downressed slightly. It would still look better in 16:9 aspect ratio be it 1366x1080 or 1280x720... that still beats over compressed 480i and it costs direcTV less to operate that transponder as it is carrying more data.

    It's like you buy a more efficient car that gets more MPG's, it costs you less for that finite resource of gas. Maybe the car isn't really high on horsepower, but hey its a great compromise on efficiency.
  10. vobguy

    vobguy Mentor

    Jun 9, 2009
    never thought I would care about CSPAN in HD. I mean really who needs that thrilling "Roll Call Vote" graphic in HD, anyhow? "Oh look its Chuck Shumer in HD, wow, look how tan Boehner is now", etc etc

    Until I realized that the only way I can watch the conventions (when I am not busy sorting my ties or cleaning the closet) is on CSPAN. That is, if I don't want to be subjected to pundits talking over the speakers, trying to tell me what I just heard (or tried to hear before they started talking.. )

    Also, some other events are covered on CSPAN that aren't covered elsewhere.

    It still doesn't put this up very high on my priority list, but it does make me understand the demand for it a bit more.
  11. pablo

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  12. Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia
    For the life of me, I still don't understand how tonyd79's innocent statement about C-SPAN could have been so misconstrued, but screw it, I'm done trying to explain it.

    I'll just post my wishlist again... :)

  13. paulman182

    paulman182 Hall Of Fame

    Aug 4, 2006
    That's all so...logical...that the irony of Mr. Spock saying it sarcastically, has made my day.:lol:
  14. je4755

    je4755 Godfather

    Dec 11, 2006
    Strongly concur, although I don’t watch H2 every night and – based on excessive numbers of commercials, often concentrated near the end of a given show – almost never live.

    In the context of discussion about CSPAN HD, I believe H2’s programming clearly is more susceptible to HD enhancement than, say, a senator speaking at a podium, but also agree any new HD channel is to be welcomed.
  15. Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    We don't have the Military History Channel either.
  16. Carl Spock

    Carl Spock Superfly

    Sep 3, 2004
    Sarcasm is logical. [​IMG]
  17. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    Exactly. And if the bandwidth is reasonably available, of course, looking out at other known/likely priorities (new RSN's and such). . . but that seems a little less tight right now.
  18. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    No, it is assigning that belief as being official D* policy based on some amorphous "everybody knows because it is common sense" that is being objected to.

    If SR shows up and says that CSPAN is well down the list for that reason, then it'll be official policy.

    Nor can I see any reason why CSPAN benefits less from HD than, say, HLN, OWN, or Cooking, other perennial requests. And CSPAN may have better ratings (tho I grant it is hard to tell because they don't use Nielsen).
  19. georule

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    Interesting idea. I could live with HD Lite on those kind of channels as a mid-term compromise, particularly if it got me all three CSPAN and NASA in HD all at once. You toss in the shopping channels and religious channels and suddenly you make a sizeable number of people happy, even if it is in smaller chunks. In aggregate tho, sizeable. Some PQ purists might have a hissy fit, but if it is clear it is limited to its own "ghetto" of public interest, religion, and shopping. . . they'd probably grumble a bit and move on.

    Or rotate them. . . NASA is in in HD when they have something going like Curiosity landing. . . CSPAN when they've got conventions. . . etc.
  20. maartena

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Well.... some people only consider what THEY think is HD-worthy content to be worthy for everyone, and what THEY think is unworthy, is therefor unworthy for everyone.

    Personally, I don't care much for C-SPAN. It is a channel I rarely tune in to, and if I do it is around election time.... And I have yet to tune in to the channel since I got DirecTV in 2010. And I think the content served by C-SPAN isn't something that NEEDS to be seen in HD.

    But I won't complain that "it shouldn't use up precious bandwidth" if it shows up in HD. HD = HD, and all HD is good HD. :D
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