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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. Carl Spock

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    3D has to fail first.

    :goodandba


    I'm obviously joking but I'm also dead serious. The industry can't keep trying to push a new broadcast format on the public every few years. The majority of consumers are now just buying HD gear. It's still new to Joe Consumer. If there is something even newer, it's 3D. That's being sold right now as the cutting edge video technology. As long as it's seen as the next step in broadcasting, you won't get the general consumer interested in something else like 4K. All you will do is confuse them.
     
  2. georule

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    As to Alan's list:

    "NON PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (43):"

    It's not clear to me from that title. . . are all those channels offered in HD by the content providers? As Sixto said, he's only interested in polling on channels that are either available in HD or announced for short-term availability in HD. Your title doesn't address that, so I don't know if you've taken that into account or are just listing what the literal interpretation of the title would be. . . D* doesn't carry them in HD (even if there is no HD to carry).

    I wouldn't think he'd want to do Spanish channels (tho you can ask) on an english language forum.

    The list of channels that D* doesn't carry at all, is also a question as to the poll, at least if they've been available in the market for some time.
     
  3. Sixto

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    Yep, just need a simple HD list in alphabetical order that we will use for the poll.

    And please let's try to limit it to real HD channels that most people care about. Rather not have hundreds of HD channels that most people have never heard of. :)

    And we may want to limit it to channels that are already in SD?

    The last poll was less then 50 channels on the list, expecting this poll to be similar.
     
  4. Alan Gordon

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    I knew that... so it must have been a typo on my part. I corrected it...

    I added UDN and moved CSS.

    I'm not crazy about the title either. If you can think of a good title for "BASIC" channels that DirecTV carries in SD that has HD feeds available, but is not offered by DirecTV, I'd LOVE to know it.

    There were three Spanish language channels in the 2010 poll. They were not included in the 2011 poll as they were not options in the DirecTV survey.

    Whether a channel was available via DirecTV was not a problem for the 2010/2011 polls. I assume it won't be now either...

    ~Alan
     
  5. APB101

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    You go through channels on DirecTV's lineup that are not premium movies (mainly in the 200s and 300s channel ranges plus a few others in foreign, like Galavision, on ch. 404, and IFC, on ch. 559). Which ones only being carried in SD by DirecTV actually have a high definition feed? That's what the list means.

    204 Headline News HD
    230 DIY Network HD
    232 Cooking Channel HD
    233 GSN HD
    235 Style Network HD


    And so on…

    Alan Gordon lists the programmers, category by category, in alphabetical order. In answer to your question, I quickly mentioned the first five in numerical order (as allocated by DirecTV).
     
  6. BLMN

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    Alan now you can add to your list GOLTV under the spanish channels only carried in SD.
     
  7. Alan Gordon

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    I'll simplify the list prior to you starting the poll (putting them in alphabetical order, doing away with the separators, etc.)

    I'm not quite sure how to specify which channels constitute "real" HD channels enough to be included... :confused: Would you rather have it be just channels that DirecTV currently carries in SD and a handful of the most popular channels they don't carry at all?!

    ~Alan
     
  8. dirtyblueshirt

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    Like "TheBlaze"? :D

    Sorry, I'm not going to stir anything up, the thread for the subscribers of the "Who Needs AMC?" service is quite enough entertainment on its own :)
     
  9. Santi360HD

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    4K...really ??
     
  10. fleckrj

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    My suggestion is all channels that DirecTV carries in SD but not in HD that are available in HD. I would not include channels that DirecTV does not already carry in SD (e.g., G4), and I would not include channels that do not even exist in HD (e.g., Military Channel).
     
  11. tonyd79

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    Fair enough.
     
  12. Alan Gordon

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    Yeah... it was not done that way before, but I think we need to omit any channels that do not have HD feeds now or in the immediate future.

    However... I think channels like PAC-12 Network, TWC SportsNet, EPIX, FearNet, etc. should be included in the poll.

    What to do about the *plex channels though?! We know DirecTV has an agreement to carry the channels, but we don't know if they plan to offer the HD feeds.

    ~Alan
     
  13. georule

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    Hmm.

    Current: "NON PREMIUM CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (43):"

    Proposed: "NON PREMIUM HD CHANNELS THAT DIRECTV CURRENTLY OFFERS IN SD, BUT NOT HD (43):"

    Still on the long and awkward side, but at least now it is complete as to the intent of the list. That's the smallest change. Or you could go "NON-PREMIUM HD CHANNELS OFFERED ONLY IN SD BY DIRECTV" which still gets there, but is a little shorter (and I like it better).

    See Sixto's comment about keeping it under 50. I'm going to guess that was aimed at most of those not even carried in SD by D* currently. A high-profile launch on the near horizon might be an exception. . . I think OWN fit that category last time.
     
  14. Alan Gordon

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    Changed it...


    It will need to be trimmed quite a bit to get to 50. That first group of channels is 43 just by itself... and that's not even counting the other channels DirecTV currently offers in SD. :(

    ~Alan
     
  15. georule

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    If you do that, you're muddying the waters of what the poll is. It now becomes a poll on two things, HD *and* new channel adds.

    On a channel that hasn't launched at all yet, but is announced (I used the OWN example previously) maybe that makes sense because you don't know if D* will offer it or not yet. Otoh, if the channel has been in the market for awhile, and D* isn't offering it even in SD. . . well, now you're getting into lobbying on two issues instead of one.
     
  16. maartena

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    You would need 2 polls. Which actually isn't a bad idea.

    One poll that polls channels going from SD --> HD.
    One poll that polls channels to be added to DirecTV that are currently not carried.

    There is too much information to combine the polls.
     
  17. APB101

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    My last posting, from 08.01.2012, of programming DirecTV carries only in SD but which actually have available HD can be found at this link:


    Make corrections and/or adjustments wherever necessary, including that BBC America HD, Disney Junior HD, and Nat Geo Wild HD have since been added to the lineup.
     
  18. Alan Gordon

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    I think the majority of users here want a channel in HD... so I don't really see the difference.

    EPIX made it to the TOP 30 in the 2010 poll. It was #11 in the 2011 poll. Given their recent exclusives and that 5 (soon to be 6) of the top 10 ranking channels in the 2011 poll have since been added, we can assume it would rank pretty high. I believe Pac-12 Network and TWC SportsNet would as well.

    FearNet is not quite as popular of a channel, but it still made the top 20 in 2011. I think OuterMAX would be quite popular as well.

    ~Alan
     
  19. Indiana627

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    That's what I'm talking about!
     
  20. georule

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    I think D* would, however. Pile that list up at the top with channels they don't even carry at all today, and you dilute the message about the channels we actually have a reasonable short/mid-term chance of getting in HD (i.e. those that D* already carries in SD). Oh, so-and-so was only #4 on the list. Except the top 3 were folks lobbying for what they don't have at all today.

    I'd like to have Epix and OuterMAX in HD myself. Couldn't care less about Pac-12 Network, but that's because I live in Big 10 country, and we already have that network. :D Alright, you and Sixto work it out. . .
     
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