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DIRECTV HD Channel Anticipation (Official Q3-12 Thread)

Discussion in 'DIRECTV Programming' started by Mike Bertelson, Jun 29, 2012.

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  1. Jul 8, 2012 #481 of 3975

    alnielsen Godfather

    Dec 31, 2006
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    Those channels are used for other sports at different times of the year. They wouldn't go unused.
  2. Jul 9, 2012 #482 of 3975

    xmguy Active Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Middle, TN
    Sounds like the game is go to Dish if you want basic cable HD channels. I've had D* for 4 years and loved it. Don't love when I see Charter getting all the channels I want when D* is still falling behind. Makes me almost wish I hadn't signed a new 2 year pact with D*, but I did. Maybe they'll get some more basic HD channels before my 2 year contract ends. What swayed me to want D* over E* or cable wasn't the HD it was the quality of service, costs and receivers. Cable can't even compete in that range. I just hope D will add more HD. I fear if their bandwidth is already being used for NFL ST and other things like 40 PPV channels. HD basics may not be on the front burner for D*. Don't get me wrong. I like the ST idea. Wish I could afford it. Same for the NASCAR IN CAR. But I still figure D* should have provisions in place to cover atleast the basics.
  3. Jul 9, 2012 #483 of 3975

    APB101 Icon

    Sep 1, 2010
    It's worth consideration if you're tired of waiting. But it's not very encouraging from Dish Network with the recent removal of AMC HD. And still it hasn't had a return of HDs for select ABC/Disney programming.

    Some of what Dish Network carries in HD (not yet in the lineup of DirecTV):
    BBC America HD
    Cooking Channel HD
    DIY Network HD
    GSN HD
    Headline News HD
    H2 HD
    The Hub HD
    Investigation Discovery HD
    Lifetime Movie Network HD
    Nat Geo Wild HD
    Oprah Winfrey Network HD

    Sportsman Channel HD
    Style Network HD

    Dish Network keeps playing on and off with Reelz Channel HD.

    Between this period and the 2014 launch of D14, perhaps there will be up to five high-definition, basic-cable programming added by DirecTV. But in the meantime, Dish isn't tempting me away; not with its losses.
  4. Jul 9, 2012 #484 of 3975

    espnjason Armchair Referee

    Sep 30, 2008
    By no means am I trying to debunk your needs and wants as a paying customer. But does all of those channels that you listed have at least one program that you watch regularly?

    My choices from your list are BBC America, H2, Investigation Discovery, and Nat Geo Wild. I think four Basic HD channels is more palatable than 15.

  5. Jul 9, 2012 #485 of 3975

    tonyd79 Hall Of Fame

    Jul 24, 2006
    Columbia, MD
    With the slow dropping of HD by dish, what is the current list of hd on directv not on dish?
  6. Jul 9, 2012 #486 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Well... it doesn't quite work like that..... first off, they are temporary stations, that share their bandwidth with other events happening throughout the year, such as all the major tennis and golf tournaments, as well as MLB Extra Innings which takes quite a few more channels in the summer than NFL does in the winter.

    Second, we know they have the bandwidth for at least about 20 HD stations right now, if Sixto's maps are correct, and if they really are going to put 6 HD on transponders instead of 5, that number could go up to 30-something or more.

    So they have the bandwidth.
  7. Jul 9, 2012 #487 of 3975

    studechip Godfather

    Apr 16, 2012
    I thought the EI package was just remaps of the rsns. That wouldn't take any extra bandwidth since they are CONUS already.
  8. Jul 9, 2012 #488 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    Yes and no.

    Those who really LOVE Basic HD channels, and would consider the difference between Dish and DirecTV a good reason to switch.... would probably have done so a LONG time ago, before AMCHD even hit DirecTV. (And those who stuck around.... couldn't be bothered, had wives that said no, or were just making threats).

    But things have changed recently. Dish dropped AMC as we know, and they also still haven't worked out their conflict with the ABC owned station meaning they don't carry some of the Disney and Family stuff in HD. As well as ESPN-U if you like sports.

    What we do know is that the list that is provided on this forum as to HD channels that Dish carries that DirecTV does not.....will most likely not appear on DirecTV's lineup till some time after 2014. They will probably add a number of HD stations, and I think they will continue at a pace of about 1 per quarter, to keep customers from leaving.

    The reality is though.... if you expect certain HD stations this year, chances are you will have to switch to Dish. But Dish has a lot of missing sports, so if you are in to sports that might not be a good choice either.
  9. Jul 9, 2012 #489 of 3975

    georule Hall Of Fame

    Mar 31, 2010
    I think anyone who has stuck it out this long ought to give it the rest of this year to see how the 6 HD per TP thing plays out. Right now it looks like the opportunity for a semi-steady dribble of new HD channels.
  10. Jul 9, 2012 #490 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    I think it is going to be a slow dribble though. Just enough to keep anyone from walking away, but not fast enough to add 15+ Basic HD over the next 2 years.
  11. Jul 9, 2012 #491 of 3975

    fleckrj Icon

    Sep 4, 2009
    Cary, NC
    I do not often watch movies other than PPV, DVD, or Bluray, but I did watch some of the Bourne movies on TNT yesterday. Although TNT is HD, the video quality of those movies was not nearly as good as DVD. If that is what the quality of TCM HD is going to be, then I do not understand why anyone would care that it is being added in HD.
  12. Jul 9, 2012 #492 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    You are probably right..... but then, I don't know this for sure, but I would imagine that if your town has a NFL team, (and the stadium sells out), fans would be able to see that local NFL team on television somewhere, without having to subscribe to NFLST....

    But then, they are usually on local NBC/ABC/CBS/Fox stations, which are LiL, not CONUS.

    In any case, NFLST is a pretty big cash cow for DirecTV. Maybe the net-profits aren't all that great (I think SatelliteRacer said some time ago that they don't make a whole lot of money of of ST), but it attracts subscribers (which is money) which may also subscribe to other premiums (which is more money), so in the end NFLST is a LOT more important then basic HD.

    After all: people are coming to DirecTV for NFLST, and they aren't leaving for Dish/Cable/Other because of missing HD.

    That said.... I still would like to know whatever happened to the guy last year that proclaimed publicly and with much fanfare he was switching to Dish because of AMCHD.

    Then DirecTV got AMCHD.
    Then Dish lost it.

    I just got caught up on Mad Men season 5 over the weekend, can't wait for season 6.
  13. Jul 9, 2012 #493 of 3975

    APB101 Icon

    Sep 1, 2010
    They are. I subscribe to MLB Extra Innings. Any team I check out between channels beginning in the 720s is also available (during a given game) on the regional sports programmer.
  14. Jul 9, 2012 #494 of 3975

    SPACEMAKER Freethinker

    Dec 11, 2007
    Mason, MI
    Who benefits more from a channel being HD-the provider or the network? Seems like all networks would push to be broadcast in HD.
  15. Jul 9, 2012 #495 of 3975
    Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    That article didn't say anything about EPIX.
  16. Jul 9, 2012 #496 of 3975
    Paul Secic

    Paul Secic Hall Of Fame

    Dec 16, 2003
    Dish put another Satalitte up a few weeks ago.
  17. Jul 9, 2012 #497 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    That doesn't say/mean anything. That satellite might be to replace an older, aging satellite. Satellites in general last about 10-12 years before they are retired, so satellite companies will have to launch satellites periodically to replace older satellites. So the launching of a new satellite doesn't always mean there is a whole lot of new bandwidth, it could just simply be that older satellites are being decommissioned, and its current programming is moved over to a new one.

    Also note: It was Echostar that launched the satellite, and it doesn't look like this one is going to be used for Dish Network services. Echostar does launch other satellites as well for other type of communication purposes. In this case, Echostar 17 is going to support HughesNet, to provide satellite internet services.

    So, no.... Dish did NOT launch a satellite, and they are NOT getting a new satellite. At least, not this year. ;)

    Furthermore, there goes a lot of planning into launching a satellite. From the day the first decision is made, to the date it goes live, is a period of roughly 3 to 4 years. There is a contracting phase where the contractor is selected, there is a design phase for both the satellite and the carrier rocket (upper cone may need to be designed so it fits that particular satellite), there is a construction phase, somewhere along the line there is a lot of FCC bureaucracy to be allowed to launch a communication satellite, there is a launch window, there is time it needs to get to the right orbit.... there is a LOT that happens/needs to happen before DirecTV or Dish can file the request to take control of the satellite in orbit.
  18. Jul 9, 2012 #498 of 3975

    ajc68 Icon

    Jan 23, 2008
    The league passes for the NBA, NHL and MLB are mostly remaps of RSNs. There are a few cases where teams are on RSNs that D* doesn't cary, in those cases they have to add a channel for that period of time. For instance, D* doesn't carry CSNNW, but they do show most of the Portland Trailblazers games on League Pass. About the only time they don't pick up those games is during a time when they're low on bandwidth (like when they add all those channels for the Masters or the US Open, etc.)
  19. Jul 9, 2012 #499 of 3975

    maartena Hall Of Fame

    Nov 1, 2010
    I would think the network. A channel in HD might attract more viewers to said channel, however a channel NOT being in HD doesn't seem to lose customers with a carrier provider.

    Of course I don't have any numbers to back this up, I don't know what kind of viewer increase there would be, nor do I know how many customers have called e.g. DirecTV and cancelled specifically for 1 or more channels not being available in HD.

    But my gut-feeling is that ratings will improve with a station being in HD, thus potentially more advertising income.

    The hassle of making a switch to another provider is rather a big step (new install, new equipment, new channel lineup, getting used to everything again, etc) so I think not many people actually switch for 1 channel. Especially since there is a good chance said channel will at some point be available. It might be 2, 3 years down the line....but "more HD is coming", right? ;)

    I personally think that those who became customers in the last 3 years, and were more interested in basic type HD channels, would have chosen Dish Network from the get go. Before that, the "HD wars" really had not broken out yet, and both had a similar HD lineup.
  20. Jul 9, 2012 #500 of 3975
    Alan Gordon

    Alan Gordon Chancellor

    Jun 7, 2004
    Dawson, Georgia

    From his list:

    • BBC America HD: Too many programs to name..
    • Cooking Channel HD: Pretty frequently watched channel here, but I don't really follow a specific program.
    • DIY Network HD: Pretty frequently watched channel here, but I don't really follow a specific program.
    • GSN HD: I've watched a few DWTS reruns on it...
    • Headline News HD: I don't watch this channel...
    • H2 HD: Rarely watched, but I do enjoy history documentaries.
    • The Hub HD: I re-watched the 60's "Batman" series last year, and I watched most of "G.I. Joe Renegades" on there last year, but the lack of HD made me stop.
    • Investigation Discovery HD: Not my cup of tea...
    • Lifetime Movie Network HD: Heavily watched during the holidays, occasionally the rest of the year.
    • Nat Geo Wild HD: Not my cup of tea...
    • Oprah Winfrey Network HD: I like Oprah, but I haven't been that interested in any of the programming yet...
    • RFD-TV HD: Not my cup of tea...
    • Sportsman Channel HD: Not my cup of tea...
    • Style Network HD: Not my cup of tea...

    I'd probably be watching "XIII" on Reelz Channel right now if it was in HD....

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